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Neutral: Hot apple cider with a dash of cinnamon and a shot of Tuaca italian brandy in it. Fantastic.

I know the driving dynamics aren’t legendary, but for me this is still my dream car. One of the best looking cars ever made, with one of the best engine notes ever. 

This is the best answer. Its often a pain to find a dealer who won’t charge ridiculous add ons, but you can usually order at MSRP. Right now if you order it likely won’t be ready until next year when the rebate SHOULD be available 

Looks worse every iteration. More like a chinese car from 2008

Good for Ford. Not sure it will work but at least they are trying. Especially with dedicated EV salespeople. 

Neutral: Those door hinge posts on the B-pillar poke out so much they will take off a kids head.

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” - Frank Wilhoit

I mean, I guess thats what happens when you don’t have a state income tax. Plebs get to pay for driving on roads. 

No one else has said it, but the obvious answer is Android Auto/Apple Car Play. Especially if its wireless. I don’t care about how good/bad an OEM infotainment system is as long as the car comes with these. Siri/google assistant is amazing when driving.

*IF* this were equipped with the super rare (less than 300 sold) 5 speed manual then I would say nice price. As it stands, a little too rich.

I would drive on of these all day long with a huge smile on my face. People love to $&#! all over these because Doug Demuro held a tube of toothpaste in a door frame gap and it sharing switchgear with Chrysler. Is it bought mostly by posers? Yes. Is it a bad car? No.

This is my “when I win the lotto” car. Practical, wicked fast

People with BEVs who own a home just need to charge at night if possible between 10pm and 5 am when base load generating power plants typically burn off excess energy.

That’s all well and good. Some of your arguments are straw man, also okay. That your prerogative. Just realize that you are in the extreme less than 1% of car owners who A: want a manual (me too). B: keep their cars for decades.

16 doesn’t really bother me. Thats a pretty common age for getting a first job. The last one was really bad.

Seriously. The v8 noises alone are worth it. Especially with the depreciation hit the they take. You could probably find a nice late model one for $50k.

Watch hoovies garage about his 12c. It was an absolute nightmare.

AMG GT was my suggestions as well

This is great. My EUV is a dream to drive on my 35 mile commute with super cruise. So quiet and relaxing. I’ll be interested in how it does in the winter/snow.