I highly recommend using Tom @ Automatch Consulting (author of the article). We used him 2-3 years ago on a new van purchase and he saved us thousands more than we would have on our own (including his fee), and avoided the pains of dealership. Deal was done already before we walked in.... simply did a test drive and…

Why shame / hate on / criticize those who use vehicles how they want?

It isn’t about that - it’s about the connection to the car & driving. The driving experience offered by a manual in a fun to drive car is unmatched by an auto, at least for those that value the experience the way I do.... That is why many lament the loss of affordable, reliable, fun to drive manual cars.

100%. This is in part why I’m still driving my 3g TL 6 speed. They don’t make anything new that : has 4drs, drives sporty, is quick, & is reliable.

we got approximately $6,000 off msrp & got exactly what we wanted. call tom (automatch consulting) next time.

Came her for this, leaving satisfied.  Take my star

Tom does used cars... news to me

Any horror movie fans out here, check out High Tension.

Eh, I miss the Acura that built my daily (05 TL 6mt).  That car has a feel and sportiness that is unmatched by anything Acura currently offers with 4 doors.

they make it, just not on a performance car (as far as I know). source: i own a green and tan 2018 toyota...

You need some speed and power. A Sienna is 7.1 to sixty. Generally speaking, it is embarrassing if the ‘sports car’ does not best the minivan at the same dealer lot.  I like them, but adding power would be an absolute must if I was to buy.

I disagree on a car like this, or other cars which are frequently modified (mustang or miata perhaps). I think a stripper model, with a/c optional, carpet optional, steelies standard (alloys optional), etc. would sell to enthusiasts if it was priced accordingly and still came in colors.

4runner:

from a state who has raised gas tax. none of that increase has resulted in any improved roads. gas tax = / = road improvements in modernity, especially with fuel efficiency and alternative sources on the rise.  i am relatively a-political, but one could argue that politics also play a strong role in whether the funds…

1 -Cargo volume: Sedona is 142 all in, 33.9 in the back. Telluride is 87 ft all in, 21 in the back (according to a google search). That makes a huge difference for us in our van (we notice the space versus our prior Pilot).

I get that, but my point is that one would expect a very high percentage of those models (possibly even higher than some of those on the ‘top’ list) to show up.  It did not make the ‘top’ because the measurement of the ‘top’ was not done of all cars (by registration, inspection, or some other method), but instead of…

To your point, the Toyota Camry and Honda Accord are absent from the list.  Both vehicles are very, very likely to exceed 150,000 before being put out to pasture

I find people tend to overestimate the value of few mpg.  Sure, if you buy a new prius and drive it 200k, you’ll save money versus that same 200k in a silverado.  but most people don’t keep cars that long, and most people don’t factor in the cost of getting rid of what they have (if applicable).    

now i’m worried as my wife just said a rock cracked the windshield in our ‘18 sienna with all those safety features

you most likely haven’t driven one. had an 07 v8 full time 4wd until it was totalled. v6 had nowhere near the torque of the v8 - which for daily driving is quite useful, its nice to pass everyone and only be at 3k rpm for example. i used it for towing, and the difference there was night and day. that v8 would tow…