I’m on board with the development, but wish it hadn’t been played as a cliffhanger. I think I would have been just as intrigued if they had laid out the actual plan for us before the episode ended.

It was a little strange. Beaming through shields is an exceptional occurrence, even if it’s not completely impossible. It seems likely that Cornwell used some sort of executive override to get through the shields, but it’s exactly the sort of thing that could be addressed with a brief line of dialogue.

I rewatched the conference room scene, and Stamets and Sarek actually laid it out quite simply: “too many possibilities.” The technology needs to be shelved, because of the temptation to use it to, *cough* bring back dead loved ones.

See, and I remember that as being a weird plot point on ENT, since Vulcans pretty much seemed to be over it by the time of TOS, which isn’t that much later in Vulcan lifespan terms.

As long as they don’t wear the TMP disco suits.

Nah, it’s not just you - you’re completely right. The show should stand on its own.

Easy as it may be, it’s generally depicted as an undesirable situation. Even last night, Sarek talked about the implications if anyone in Starfleet were to *cough* try to bring back dead loved ones.

Our interpretations of that scene are very different. I always thought it out of character that they barreled through that plot point without acknowledging that it was icky as hell.

Yeah, I wondered about that.

If anything, it does the opposite - as I said, Starbase 1 in the JJ film orbits Earth, while on Discovery it doesn’t.

I certainly didn’t mean to disparage DS9 - it’s beautiful and perfect, and my Trek.

I’ve been enjoying Saru’s turn as captain, but that was one call I disagreed with him on. My first instinct was to specifically keep the shields down.

Yup. Continuity has always been a shitshow, and the best approach has always been to look at it with your eyes slightly out of focus, so you can see its general shape and gloss over the details.

Yeah, according to the novel, the “Cage” uniforms are being phased in on the Constitution-class ships for now.

I think the key is that Lorca’s trip to the Prime Universe was an accident. There was no grand plan to use Discovery to enact his coup - it was just his ride home.

Yeah, that’s why I prefaced with “for what it’s worth.”

I don’t think it would be impossible, but I do think it’s unlikely, considering what Voyager itself, and the last couple TNG movies, were like.

I guess the thing is, I grew up on X-Men comics. I’m fine with flexible continuity, so the details don’t bug me so much.

For what it’s worth, I’m watching the aftershow right now, and they briefly touch on this moment (along with their transporter override through the shields) as indicative of just how desperate the Federation is at this point.

I think that’s what they’re going for. I remember when Bryan Fuller was still attached to the project, he said that one of the reasons for this setting was to show a piece of Star Trek history that had never been explored.