This is a case where the parents are being abusive by putting the baby through completely pointless pain and suffering. At that point, it makes sense for government to step in and protect the child from his parents. Now, the parents believe this further pain and suffering has a chance to improve his condition, but…

I don’t think I got anything :) you’re good.

You cant just take a dying baby on a plane. In order for that baby to get to the US, the NHS would need to pay for its life support systems across the ocean. That kind of thing approaches a million dollars. Should UK taxpayers pay for that? No.

Basically, I see the heart of conflict as being whether Charlie is a person with rights and freedoms or a possession of his parents. If he were simply their possession, then sure they could unhook him and do whatever they want - that’s ownership. But Charlie is an individual, distinct from his parents, so he has…

So, a couple things:

First, medical care in the UK is nationalised. So, the options in country are limited as its all one system. The concept of shopping around is limited at best and often just not a thing.

Second, the institution in Charlie Gard is in is actually one of the very best pediatric medicine institutions…

“...they have been latched onto by vultures and other garbage consuming assholes and that is causing them tremendous amounts of harm.”

This is such a sad situation. I completely understand why the parents aren’t listening to reason. This is their baby. I don’t blame them. As I understand it, they medical consensus is that they are prolonging his suffering.

My understanding is that the British governments position is that further treatment would be futile, so doing so would be needlessly causing pain. It’s in his best interest to not be subject to that pain.

Crash course on medical ethics.

because all traveling will do is ad stress and pain to the baby and he might not even survive the flight.

But how? They can’t just move him around. I have no idea how complicated it would be to move this poor guy across the world attached to all of these machines. The procedure is painful, and he is already suffering. What about his rights? The parents don’t own him and he was appointed an advocate to protect his…

Eh, just reacting to your ‘they basically just want to unhook the baby’.

The hospital doesn’t want them to take him because doctors, nurses and staff are in the business of not doing any harm. This continued quest for a miracle cure is ultimately harmful, not only to the child, but to the parents as well. This situation exacerbates the tremendous amount emotional trauma that the parents…

The hospital, the court appointed independent advocate for Charlie, and the judges (not the government) all agree that it is in Charlie’s best interests to stay at GOSH and receive palliative care, rather than be flown to the USA and be treated as a human guinea pig (where he would probably die on route). I am from…

The baby is in pain and dragging it halfway around the world for a treatment that wasn’t intended to treat the issues it has is cruel.

No, a BRITISH child. A white, British child.

I don’t understand how they can prohibit the parents from taking the child to another hospital for treatment?

As a recovered alcoholic I can say please get medical help if you stop drinking. I had to be hospitalized three days before going to rehab to prevent this. Don’t be ashamed, and don’t think you can automatically do it on your own.

Had my dad not already been in the ICU for another thing when he went through alcohol withdrawal, it likely would have killed him; until then, I didn’t realize how tough that process is on the body. Although I never watched True Blood, I thought Ellis did a fantastic job as Shinwell, on Elementary. Very sad loss.

It’s a start. In my experience, the only thing that keeps cheaters in check on multiplayer servers (at least for building/survival games) is a staff of dedicated moderators. If there aren’t mods on almost 24/7, script kiddies can do a lot of damage in a short amount of time. The automated tools are important, too, but…