Damn, I must admit I did Nazi that coming

“Our President believed it. The Media believed it. Our President’s wife believed it”

...and while I’m filling this thing with comments, I’ll add that I’m not sure it’s a major flaw in the show. I’ve only seen up to the episode we’re discussing here, but I wouldn’t say the audience is supposed to agree with what Dolores is doing- she seems pretty crazy to me. I can understand -why- she would be…

...looking back at your original comment, though, I certainly agree that it’s not fair to hold all park guests or employees responsible. By ‘easily countered’ I meant more that that argument wouldn’t get far with an angry Dolores or Maeve*, but you’re right that it’s a logical one and I was wrong to dismiss it in…

Just to be clear in case it isn’t- I’m not saying -your- argument is weak, I’m saying that if you confronted a vengeful Delores with the line ‘yeah I did that stuff to you but I didn’t think you remembered it’, you probably wouldn’t be saving your life...

I’ve accepted the memory point- (that’s what I mean by a weak moral argument, because if it’s OK to cause pain if an entity won’t remember that pain, then amnesiacs for example would also be fair game). I’m not claiming that the hosts would be seen as -exactly- like people, since that would spoil the moral…

...to clarify, I think the park would market the experience as ‘as real as possible’, and the hosts as ‘as human as possible’- reacting in real ways, but with crucial bits (memory, the fact that they’re manufactured for the purpose) which are supposed to make using them for fun ethically OK. It’s just that those end l…

I think that’s still part of the point, though- their responses -in the moment- are real, it’s just that they won’t (or shouldn’t) remember the moment next time. That aspect is why the visitors might think it acceptable to treat the hosts as things, but obviously that would be an incredibly weak moral argument.

Interesting that, after all that, what finally brought it all down and triggered their running away was (a) one angry priest and (b) another highly incompetent priest/KGB helper. Seriously, meeting up in a park specifically to say that the FBI might be all over you right now?

Paraphrasing Willie Nelson singing Townes Van Zandt, you mean.

For one thing the priest had seen their actual legit faces.

Agreed, it bugs me that nobody’s said that because it’s the most obvious excuse. But I think it’s a weak and easily countered one- the whole point of the park is that the robots’ reactions are ‘real’ (they believe their lives are real) and I’m sure it would have been advertised on that premise. Otherwise, yeah, you…

Damn, The Americans is back in the game! Having started a few months ago, I’ve been working my way through, and season 5 tried my patience hard. I’d mark each episode -at least- a whole letter grade lower than they got here. I honestly could not understand all those As for what felt like blatant wheelspinning.

Just posting many years later to say... I thought the guy coming down the stairs behind Tony was just a visual joke about how awkward Janice’s gathering was. A random guy saying ‘nope’. Made me laugh pretty hard.

Touché, it can clearly be an adjective too and I am a bloody idiot.

Feels like this new season is coming out really soon. Good stuff, although I’m also weirdly nervous about it- the first season was great, but the least effective parts were generally those which strayed most from the novel. Time to cross fingers and manage expectations...

Serious answer: the British ‘bloody’ is an adverb, so the problem rarely if ever comes up.

His take seems to be ‘don’t use satire because some people are so stupid and/or confirmation blinded that they won’t get it’. The implication is that you should pander to an absurdly high level of credulousness, and how is that a good idea? Believing in the Gorilla Channel and getting mocked for it might just help…

And while I’m picking holes in TV from five years ago... on learning that the FBI were going to kill one of their dudes, why the hell didn’t Philip or Elizabeth call the Rezidentura? They didn’t have the exact name, but a warning would surely prevent things like solo jogging trips.

There’s no way anyone’s going to read this, but in case they magically do... the really weird plot element was Philip wiping Amador’s car down for prints, which is what made Stan immediately suspect the KGB. Surely they were fighting on Philip’s car? Philip had never been near Amador’s car- couldn’t he just put gloves…