Well yeah, that’s why I said,

Ourisman Honda in Bethesda. The experience was not without its hiccups but with covid they were more flexible with doing stuff outside of the traditional sales process. I did come in as an internet prospect though rather than just call the sales floor out of the blue.

While related, technically the ZDX is a short-wheelbase MDX with a chopped roof, and the Crosstour is an Accord 5-door fastback hatch given the Subaru Outback treatment. 

I just bought a 2020 Si sedan after test driving a Veloster N.

If I were to guess, I’d say Honda was trying to make an Outback and failed.

Oh, I agree, the front end is a mess. The facelifted version where Honda doubled down on the truckiness is even worse.

Um, I guess I should’ve been more precise. The trunk is very deep front to back. The cargo areas in the CR-V and Fit may have more total volume when measured from floor to ceiling but the cargo *floor* area in the Crosstour is sizable.

Competition with the Type-R has nothing to do with why there’s no Si hatch. It’s all about where the different body styles and trim levels are built.

I genuinely like the Crosstour but wish Honda didn’t try to trucktify it vs the rest of the Accord lineup. If they skipped the cladding and butch front end styling and instead gave it similar front styling to the other Accord body styles, it would’ve been fine. 

The trunk is actually huge in these. The sloping back does compromise the total volume vs being a pure wagon, but it’s still very spacious.

I was able to get a *little* below MSRP for my Si, even with shopping multiple dealers. They all knew the Si was about to be discontinued and people were clamoring to snag the last few examples. But I managed to get a relative ton for my trade, a semi-basket case BMW. I actually got as much for my trade as dealers…

“There’s no accounting for bad taste.”

Sedan > hatch > coupe

Blue is definitely the best color for this one and for dat sweet sweet Si heritage.

Do you have a link for that? I looked into what the new Si might be before I bought my 2020 Si sedan a couple weeks ago and all I saw was that the Si would come back in the next gen and there would be no more coupe. I could’ve easily missed the part about the next Si being sedan only though.

Si hatch could be likely. The current gen Si only comes as a sedan or hatch because the Si bits are exclusive to North American factories, while the hatch is only built in England. But Honda is shutting down their England factory and moving hatch production to North America. That’s also why the Type-R is only a hatch,…

I just bought a 2020 Si sedan because I was really ready to get out of my previous car and the Si was by far the cheapest car that excited me. The 2020 is the only year of the current generation Si with Honda Sensing, there won’t be a 2021 Si at all, and I absolutely wanted active cruise on my next car.

The CX-5 is a little better looking and better to drive but it’s by no means a performance car, and to get the better looks and handling you give up a lot of practicality in terms of interior room, storage nooks & crannies, and fuel efficiency.

A fully loaded CX-5 is $38k, but it also has a 250 hp turbo motor.