No, I get it. So many of these comments are enraging. It gets old having to be the voices that speak up. Worse when it so clearly falls on deaf ears. Most people are afraid to show anger lest that be used to accuse them of hysteria. It has always been far easier to label women hysterical than to listen to our…

Good lord, don't lump all Gen Xers in, I mean I know you said by and large, but many many people my age (50) were the people who fought for these very issues to be made important. I was on the 1st sexual harrassment committee that ever existed at NYU.

I agree with all of this except the words terrorism and terrorize. Maybe that's my own issue, but I think they are truly complicating this issue when they aren't needed for clarity.

I can't even reply to many of the men and some women in these threads anymore because I am so incensed that they seem to feel that the whole reason for someone to get famous is mostly so they can utilize that to get laid…and so what's the big deal?
Waaa, waa, waa…you mean we have to take responsibility for our own…

*Applauds*
Thank you!

Many people have addressed that in these comments. I think reading these threads can give you a multipilcity of views far more nuanced than my own.

And how is that a bad thing?

This exchange cracked me up. Kudos to you both.

I'd like to see the evidence here. Is there a particular report you can link me to?

Did she consent to him pulling his naked penis out and laying it on her clothed body?
No.
That is a non-consensual sexual act.
Is that clearer?

I think that's another point that many people seem to be missing. Men have a responsibility to make sure they have consent and we, as a society, need to hold them as accountable as we do women for their actions.

Wow, you really are tone deaf to the pain of others. I'm repulsed by your unwillingness to recognize sexual harrassment simply because you think women are playing victim when they actually speak about it. You have, apparently, perfected that most intolerant of positions: if I can do it, everyone should.
Btw, I'm also…

You put this so well. Thank you.

To be honest, I saw that when it first aired, and I can't say I remember it clearly at all. That said, I do remember their sex life as being upsetting in that I frequently felt that he was demeaning and into sex that wasn't nearly as appealing to her. Or maybe that she had no sense of self or agency or ability…

I think some people are missing the point of the episode. It's the whole—it can be two things. Both the women feeling sexually assaulted and the man feeling he hadn't done anything wrong…which is why the ending is so important.
What he does is sexual and not asked for and her confusion and then revulsion equally…

To me, it's quite clear that the present we're seeing is in the 70's.

She didn't say anything that I remember, but I did immediately ask my fiance "Was that rape?" because it is very confusing which I suspect is the point.

I have gone to Twenty Eight just because I love Shirley so much. It was wonderful. It's in an odd location, but well worth the effort. We had a 3 course meal just to try as much as possible.

Aha, turns out Sterling K. Brown got his MFA at NYU so let's just call this a draw!

What a year he has had! Fantastic on Atlanta and now this. Wow, I am so impressed.
As a NYU alumni, I always stick up for NYU grad acting, but damn it, Yale School of Drama may just have us beat.