I don’t see her as “the victim” in this situation. I’m pointing out a way that many people are engaging in a counterproductive response to shitty male behavior.

“Outrage implies that people Metzger harassed were in a position of power.”

Hiring power is one thing, but once you hire someone generally you have obligations that prevent you from firing willy-nilly. Likely his actions at this point have overcome those obstacles but it doesn’t mean you can just react instantly as an employer.

Lol ok.

Yes I agree. In the context of this Jez post I am talking about how people believe they’re entitled to a specific response from Amy Schumer based on this man’s behavior, when she is likely very constrained in her reaction by her obligations as his (now former, apparently) employer. Collectively people are acting as AS…

In some cases her blocking people may have been an effort to avoid certain types of legal liability if she was his employer at that time. To allow certain comments to remain on her account, even if she agreed with them, could have heightened damages.

Well the flip side of that is that she’s their employer, and has legal obligations toward them and a responsibility to cover her/her employer’s ass w/r/t disciplinary decisions. She can’t just do whatever she wants. She is constrained by the law and likely by a union, if not by the network. She’s not the queen of…

I think it’s 100% fair to call AS out for her own behavior (she def has some really fucked up jokes of her own), but not for other people’s behavior.

I agree with you, generally. I am not more than casually aware of Amy Schumer’s comedy, tbh and I certainly am not basing my position on any idea of her as a feminist hero. I think we do a disservice to feminism and to women in general when we unfairly hold women responsible for men’s behavior. We should stop doing…

Yes, but my point is that we like to pin problematic male behavior squarely on the nearest woman, either because we hate feminists or because we are feminists and feel betrayed by the woman’s proximity to the behavior. I would like to see us start asking men to hold each other accountable for their behavior towards…

Sorry for the typo but his name being kurt makes zero difference to my point.

That logic only gets me so far.

He has. But Amy Schumer is not his keeper, even if she has been his employer. Employers have legal obligations toward employees that can be complicated.

I agree with this. I think it’s easy to feel like she is betraying us *as a woman* but she is also not responsible for what he says.

“subsequent tests found that store bought panties often have DNA of the folks who made and packaged them.”

I would like to see the male comics he cites as validating him - Marc Maron, etc - to be asked publicly to account for him and reign him in.

That makes sense to me.

I live in a different city, but I’ve been on many, many trains and buses in NYC. I get taking the most efficient one and trains routes are more efficient there than in other cities, but I don’t get categorically being opposed to taking the bus.

I feel like I can get as queasy in a cab/car as the bus bc the bus driver is more likely to know/avoid potholes on a given route. Chicago streets are wrecked after every winter.

Just... Are these people fucking kidding me?