I love this quote from the medieval serf that thinks iPhones are made by warlocks and that doesn’t seem to realize cross-cutting had been around for about 60 years when Empire Strikes Back hit theatres:

Regardless of your personal feelings towards the Snoke twist, it’s one of the major flashpoints for fan ire, and they make the same argument you just made—that it seems cheap to ignore Snoke’s rise to power—when approximately 90% of these gripes pertain to the original trilogy as well. That’s why I can’t treat it as…

Turns out Force ghosts aren’t immortal, they just let you extend your life another 10-15 years before you’re dragged back to hell.

Oh, don’t you remember all the scenes in the prequels where Jedi Inquisitors stormed into mosques and synagogues murdering everyone with lightsabers and using the Force to level their heretical temples?

But Ren’s internal conflict was established in the first movie, and for the first 2/3s of Last Jedi, everything was setting up a turn to the Light Side, and one that would occur earlier in the trilogy to avoid belaboring an obvious “twist”. Instead, Ren asserted himself as beyond either Light or Dark, refusing to live…

Because in the case of Star Wars, a lot of people have long stopped viewing them as movies and today treat them more like weird fetish objects from childhood that are more closely linked to their desperate need to cling to their youth as they leave middle age. People like that are basing their reactions more on “Luke…

Darth Vader throws the final battle and trips. That ruined the final battle for me. Plus Vader unilaterally deciding he’s a good guy despite having killed 10 billion people on Alderaan just because the last persob he killed happened to be kind of a dick.

“No answer” is an answer, though. This is what you’re missing. The burning desire to learn the truth informs a lot of her character, and having all that anticipation build up to such an anti-climax was devastaring for Rey.

You’re missing the point. Rey being an orphan wasn’t to set up a plot point, it was to establish her character. I’m noticing a lot of people are confusing the two and prioritizing plot over emotional context.

Snoke literally did everything Palpatine did to Vader, and his death also marked a crucial turning point in Ren’s character. I’m struggling to see what makes Snoke doing the exact same thing so unforgiveable.

WHAT’S THE EMPEROR’S BACKGROUND

I can’t understand human emotion unless it somehow pertains to a pllt twist

No, it is subversive because the plot elements of Snoke and Rey’s parents weren’t abandoned, they just paid off differently than what you expected. Snoke didn’t simply wander off screen, he had a pointed death that marked a significant turning point for both the story and Kylo Ren’s character.

And if you watched 5,6, and 8 in a row you’d think “who are all these new characters?”

But by hyping it as a big mystery and then revealing that she’s just a go-getter and not royal blood had a much stronger emotional impact and revealed a little into how Rey perceives herself.

......Luke spent a lot of time talking about Kylo Ren because both Luke and Rey know him personally, which in turn is much more natural and human than talking about this shadowy mastermind neither of them have met. And this would break up the emotional flow of the scene, which is really about Luke and Rey, to deliver…

Because these sorts of fans don’t judge Star Wars based on critical appraisal. Their only scale is “How efectively does this keep my crippling fear of my own mortality at bay?”

“Did you think any of the readers here actually believe”

Mark Hammil is a treasure and I wish more actors were as generous and passionate as he is, but I’ve gotta side with Johnson on this one. If we’re starting with the premise that Luke Skywalker has gone into hiding, there aren’t a lot of dramatically satisfyijg roads to go down.

WHY DIDN’T THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SNOKE WAS CLEARLY AZOR AHAI