Last Jedi owned. Yoda getting high and torching a library owned. Snoke’s interior decorator owned.

Okay, but Snoke had a secret identity, right? That’s what this movie was really about: Constantly digging up and recycling the past by making every new character either an old one in disguise, or a rehash of an existing one. I don’t see how this or any film can have any value if the bad guy is not someone we have…

Yeah, the overwhelming number of fan complaints are variations on “I am scared of new things/this does not follow the rigid Star wars style guide in my head”.

Look, I’m not asking for much. Just a 20-seconds speech where, right before Snoke falls apart, he groans “By the way I was Mace windu back for revenge”?

How hard would it be to add a new side character that’s kind of like Bran from Game of Thrones that can be summoned for exposition at any time by any character? Or maybe put some onscreen pokemon cards for every character ala Suicide squad?

How hard it be to just add another 15 minute scene where Snoke takes Rey prisoner and while she’s in jail another prisoner relays Snoke’s backstory to her, at the conclusion of which Rey says “Thank you, Snoke’s backstory is the first and foremost thing on my mind right now.”

Oh good kinja decided to triple post my comment and then refuse to let me delete it

Exactly. It’s getting genuinely strange that all these fans realize Snoke’s identity was never presented as “guess which returning character from a previous film is calling himself snoke now!” That was pure Youtube clickbait bullshit and I’m so glad he wasn’t Plagueis or whoever.

Ironically, Johnson said a 30-second scene of exposition would’ve been clunky, and he’s right. Snoke was too busy kicking ass and giving orders to pause and say “AS YOU KNOW, Kylo, you and I met in the blustery autumn of 1997 on a ski trip to Salt Lake City...”

But why couldn’t Snoke say “Hi Rey, behold I am Darth Plagueis.”

You can reasonably assume maybe 30-40 years passed between episodes 6 and 7, which is way more than enough time for a new leader to arise. We did NOT need a scene where Snoke bellows exposition at his subordinates. That would have been clumsy. And lame.

Every time a character is introduced in a Star Wars movie, fans will not be satisfied until someone reassures them that this isn’t a new character, god forbid, but yet another member of Luke’s extended family that met R2-D2 twenty years ago.

It’s like the more you articulate your problems with Snoke the more you’re describing Palpatine. Hell, we never even saw Palpatine in A New Hope and only saw a garbled hologram in Empire. In Jedi, he’s in exactly one scene and dies.

I am genuinely bewildered at the backlash to Last Jedi, and while I usually make it a point to critically appraise things through other people’s eyes, 90% of the criticism I’m hearing is “this isn’t following the formula rigidly enough”

Bingo. It was great to see, for the first time in cinematic history, the protagonists’ scrappy underdog scheme to take out a galactic army with two normal people fail exactly as hard as it should.

So basically, the internet collectively decided to turn on Star Wars the moment it got good again.

Well have you SEEN...whatever Woody Allen movie is so funny it justifies fucking children? I mean come on, what’s worse: pedophilia or making a pedophile feel uncomfortable? Has it occurred to you that maybe YOU are the true monster for not sweeping it under the rug?

Don’t tell the showrunners that, either.

Sorry, something about raping little kids gets under my skin. Don’t know why, but child rape really bugs me for some reason.

Also, and I swear to god I am not fucking joking, this guy said “I’m on Twitter everyone! How many telecom CEOs can say THAT? besides all of them I mean”