Agree. And whoever bought those probably upgraded from whatever it was they were driving, and put their kids in a safer car.

I’ve seen more than a few of them on the road here in Germany, as well.

I bought a 2013 with the "shit" 4 banger and 4 speed auto.  I wanted a Caravan, wife wanted a Journey so we got that - she was going to be the one driving it after all.  Not one warranty claim since then.  Is it great? No but I didn't buy it expecting it to be great.  My wife wanted something with some height and she…

On hand inventory has been so ridiculous, the fact they were physically there is about all it takes now, if ones car got totalled one doesn’t have many options as the used market is still overheated so I can see one of these being an easy decision. I’ve driven a 4cyl 4speed one and it wasn’t great, it wasn't fun, but…

The most interesting part of this is a diesel right hand drive Fiat version with a stick was sold in the UK

Even more insane is the price of used cars these days.

They sold like mad in South America.   They weren’t too great, but they were cheap and cheery.

Exactly. This and the Grand Caravan were fine. This was ok if you didn’t need something as big as a minivan or you needed AWD.

It certainly is. There really are no *bad* cars - there are just cars that some of us find subjectively undesirable. Even the cars that those around here decry as “unreliable” like Chrysler products for whatever reason, are miraculous compared to cars of 30 years ago in their reliability and durability.

Yup - I’d rather have one of these than a Rogue - at least it doesn’t have a CVT! 

Don’t poor shame people. We all know why people bought this. It was always dramatically cheaper than any other 7 seater. And with the insane markup on anything new these days, a leftover 2019 Journey is probably 30% to 50% cheaper than anything else on the lot.

They are BIG and dirt cheap, which is what the average American wants from a car. They have a crappy interior and drive like poop - they don’t care.

I got a Nissan Rogue as a rental once too. They suck, don’t they?

I feel like they are ok for their intended audience. Yeah, a car blog is always gonna shit on them. BFD. I always like Roger Ebert, because he could review The Maltese Falcon for what it was trying to be and he could review American Pie for what it was trying to be. He didn’t compare or try to mix the two.

Making a rational choice to buy a new car, with a warranty and more modern safety and efficiency standards instead of a used car from a shady dealer (or private person) doesn’t necessarily make one a weirdo.

I had one for a loaner from the dealer when my 2012 200 needed a little warranty work in late ‘18, it was an SE AWD, which was basically a stripper trim, but had the 283hp 3.6l V-6, 6 speed auto, and AWD, basically the fat, AWD station wagon version of my 2012 200, but with smaller wheels and lesser radio. If my 200…

I mean, I don’t want one, but are these things really that bad? 

I bought one in 2016 and I am still waiting for it to be this horrible car that people say it will be. It was a V6 Crossroad for 20,400 out the door and also had 0% financing, why wouldn’t I buy it? It currently has 78,000 miles and has never been back to the dealer one time for any repairs other than maintenance.…

I don’t get the hate for these. They are BIG and dirt cheap, which is what the average American wants from a car. They have a crappy interior and drive like poop - they don’t care. It’s not a car for the sort of people who care enough about cars to hang out here.

Or, people were able to make their own choices based on inventory, prices, and needs/wants.