except that isn’t true, Tesla makes a lot of money on their cars. the reason they rely on compliance credits is because they can (if you have no emissions vehicles there’s no point to not selling those credits) and they have been pumping that money back into massive factories for expansion. from the munro breakdown…

3rd: I’m all for more competitors in the EV market but man they are just acting like it’s a walk in the park to do so when the market currently has a juggernaut that has been laying the groundwork to maintain that position for over a decade at this point.

4th: Toyota is right, the infrastructure is difficult and will…

I would feel a lot better about this if they made vehicle weight a factor as well. If we are going to get into the nitty gritty of taxing people based on how much they use the road, then it should account for the exponential increase in wear applied by heavier vehicles.

Until EV marketshare becomes significant enough to really dent gas tax revenue, this seems a solution in search of a problem. Right now, the biggest problem with the gas tax is that it’s been the same since the early 1990s. Yes, EVs get a free ride, but we are already giving people up to $7,500 cash to buy an EV. If…

Calling them gigafactories is stupid, sure, but building your own battery technology and manufacturing capacity is smart. I don’t see the problem.

All Vapor is his new hydrogen vehicle company.

Lordstown, Nikola, Faraday Future... Lucid?  All vapor?

I thought that too, when Hindenburg’s Nikola research came out. It’s worth noting however that pretty much every single thing Hindenburg said about Nikola turned out to be true.

This seems like a lot of money for what you get.  CP

I mean, it was going to depreciate catastrophically anyway.

Grand Wagoneer can miss me - but THIS i am in on. Affordable people and thing hauler that get better than 20 MPG. I love hatches vans and small cars - the world needs more smart thinking instead of just bigger is better thinking. 

Cant wait to drive one of these around dystopia once the guillotines come out

“But Its Interior Looks Worth It”

I’m getting old. I read “interior seems worth $85k” and I think that it should look like this

It’s the same with any new car, except Tesla’s more transparent about it.  With anybody else, you’re just trying to figure out when they’ll have the best rebates and programs.  The truck I leased in November would be 50% more today, but who knows what next month will bring?

A $10k price increase on the Model Y Long Range should trigger enough common-sense alarm bells to do some damn research here. Increasing it $10k would make it the same price as a Performance which would make zero sense. It took me less than a minute to open a new tab and build a Model Y on the Tesla site to see that…

Or the article is wrong. The lowest price Model Y was 39,990, but that was the standard range RWD version that they dropped off the menu. They dropped that model off the site last month.

Or Jalopnik is just continuing their trend this week of making fake articles about Tesla, for market manipulation purposes or who knows what. The price did not actually go up $10k. Hard to say if it either went up $1k or maybe went down slightly, but it’s still in the same price ballpark it has always been in.

That’s odd, because Reuters posted the same thing about $10k...

• The article is wrong by a factor of 10