It's not a matter of taking sides. There's no good side. It's a matter of not fucking killing a bunch of animals, which was her intention.

Yeah, of the two jerks in this story, she's by far the bigger one. Couldn't he have done something that doesn't involve other living creatures, like keying her car?

Yeah, the problem isn't one gender or another, it's the shitty shitty dating pool all around!

Whenever a woman says she believes in equality but she's not a feminist, she gets jumped on with the most expansive and basic definition of feminism possible. Yet when someone (man or woman) DOES claim to be a feminist, they get jumped on for not believing every specific thing a certain brand of feminism believes…

Yeah, though it depends on what guys exactly you're talking about. I think a lot of folks here are conflating the different types of guys that try to use this stuff. Not that I've done any kind of anthropological analysis on these dudes, but as a proud penis owner myself, I think I've got a little better idea of their…

Five course meal huh, well aren't you fancy! :)

Seems like that's exactly the challenge here. Your responses shows that as soon as the person's name is out there, you'll assume they must be guilty and they are being kept from doing other bad things so a name and photo will help. But if that person is innocent, his name and photo are all out there already in…

FISA courts are absolutely necessary because you're dealing with actual secret information which can do harm if reavealed. And there is oversight provided.

Well, I think it's going a bit too far to assume that many of the folks who have provided the Brown family with this stage are acting with genuine motivations. Some are, but there's also a lot of anti-Americanism driving the international effort to highlight the issue. Let's not forget countries like Russia, China,…

I think one key component of the lower Democratic turnout is that the party and the candidates themselves approach mid-terms by veering to the right, assuming that's who will come out to vote anyway. So they run from liberal policies, including successful ones, they attack the President (who's still paritcularly…

If it was a matter of a few incidents when she was a child, that's one thing. But a persistent pattern that continued well into her late teens? No, the "she was a child" excuse is bullshit. No one would excuse similarly sexually coercive behavoir from a 17-yr old boy here as "just being a kid."

Not to belabor this tangent too much, but I did say many/most women, not all. And I am relaying my own relationship experience, as well as female friends, the experience of other guys, discussions here, and general societal views on the matter. If this was raised at all with my girlfriends during my mid 20s and later,…

Yeah, calling this innocent exploration is bizarre IMO. You don't have that element of manipulation in mutual, consenaul exploration.

And so many of the same folks wonder why feminism (mostly unfairly) gets the label of being man-hating.

Umm...what? Sorry, I don't buy that for a second. My girlfriends would have flipped their shit if I had done so in bed next to them. Hell, many/most women don't want their partner to do so at all.

It wasn't a dude, so it must have been innocent.

You can bet if it were a man talking like this, claiming that he was a sexual predator, he would be skewered beyond belief here. But it's not just a woman, it's an icon here, so she gets a pass.

Great explanation all around.

She said it was reductive to think that way. She's right. Glad there are women who think so here!

Fighting the patriarchy......by reinforcing all of it's same old gender essentialist stereotypes. Pretty standard MO here.