How often do you see men's magazines/websites/articles discussing the plight of short men or bald men or obese men or men of lower income brackets in dating? Where's their hysteria and outrage? There are plenty of men that women generally find less desirable, but they don't make a "thing" of it, they just keep dating…

Hmm....this coming from the person who said that men single men over 30 must want to be single, as though decent single women their age were just readily available if they were interested.

Did anyone, any single person, claim that never happens? Nope!

The defensiveness is over the fact that it's 1) just not true, and 2) it's a myth that makes it even harder for guys over 30 to even find someone to date and possibly commit to because women assume single=something is wrong with him. And that's exactly why it is insulting, because many of us would like to find a…

So the guys they've asked out said, no, I'm holding out for someone younger?

I don't know, but it's way better than dating people that aren't looking for the same thing you are and then complaining that they don't share your desires.

"This just in! Science has discovered what men really want! And it's not you!"

Are there really throngs of women in their late 30s early 40s complaining that they aren't getting enough sex from their partners?

Umm...no, I think it's more guys saying plenty of us are perfectly happy to commit, but it's a matter of being in a position that we can fulfill all the responsiblities expected of us in such a commitment and more importantly, actually finding a decent person to commit to. The older you get, the more difficult the…

But if that's their preference, what's wrong with that. If it's not yours, you can date someone that wants more.

But no one is stopping you from dating men that do want more. It's just a matter of finding them.

No, people are saying that the whole older guys chasing young girls thing are the outliers and it's wrong to take the outliers and then say this is what we're all dealing with.

It's too late to edit the comment but what I mean is that IF a 30+ man wants to be in a relationship, he's most likely in one.

Apparently having a bunch of guys saying that doesn't do any good. Maybe she'll listen to you!

You abolutely nailed it.

What's predictable is that, instead of listening to people actually share their own experiences and points of view, you want to tell them how they think and feel, imposiong your experiences on them. And when they tell you that you can't do that, you derail with some stupid hastag.

Because of the selction bias in the study.

Okay, and #notallwomen are shallow golddiggers. Good discussion!

Got it. I'm with you on the media angle. And I can't blame you at all for being frsutrated with the messages you get throughout your lives. We (guys) don't have it quite the same way by a long shot, but it's not entirely absent, so I think many of us can both sympathize and empathize. The key of course, is not to…

But when you extrapolate those experiences to the entire population, it is making things up in a way.