I am sure this is going to be a great car but being an Si it seems a bit less than what it should be. I just dont see a world where this can legitimately be compared to a GTI or ST or next gen mazdaspeed 3. It seems more like a sentra SE-R competitor to me?

Not really, the ST twins are both manual only as is the RS.

I dont know if he is but I am and I totally agree it felt really forced. Also I dont get why they couldnt have skinner talk about the car instead of just saying stupid stuff. Hes a good driver and I would love to hear real input from him.

I think this might be a pretty heavily revised version for America though . Also there were rumors of it being built in michigan i thought part of the replacement plan for the focus/fiesta production moving?

Valid, I thought you were refuting the idea that people buying new cars are likely not concerned with owning them for more than ~5years.

Yes, but I bet you the first owner doesnt keep it for more than 6 years in most cases, and guess what? its the first owner thats doing the buying.

Even if thats true, it doesnt mean that the modern mod motor is a bad engine. Just that a oddly designed FPC version of it isnt ideal. Its obvious by looking at the ford racing catolog that they could have made the same power with a CPC and that the FPC was mostly done for a cool marketing factor.

Ok seems like you are pretty opinionated on the subject... having driven both the 2.7/3.0/3.5 ecoboost and the 5.0 in properly tight twisty stuff in the appalachians and in the canyon roads of california I would say that from a “fun” standpoint the 5.0 has them beat it just revs out MUCH better. That being said I do…

You really think the coyote and voodoo are “steaming piles of garbage”? Gonna go out on a limb and say you have probably never driven one. Also while I agree most of the 2v and 3v early mod motors were way down on power I think the 4v 4.6 and 5.4 were pretty good engines NA wise. An NA 300hp 7000rpm 4.6 dohc all…

Thank you, came here to point this out.

I guess I get that but you will only “be that guy” if you turn traction off and drive like a total ass. I am assuming you are the kind of person with the self control to not do that. I guess I’m just butthurt because I would love to have one but its out of my financial reach right now.

hmmm interesting... related to the nx200t engine I presume? There must be a higher level engine as well?

waiitt you arent going to buy a gt350 “because some people who drive  old mustangs are stupid” somehow i get the feeling that’s not the only thing keeping you from buying a gt350.

Not bad. I am super interested in what the final powertrain options will be. Maybe hybrid v6 and or turbo 6 cylinder?

I dont but i wasnt claiming that Haldex is better just that in most circumstances for most people it would perform similarly. I have since been corrected about the subaru systems (my understanding was of the system in the manual vehicles as that is all i have owned) vs the much more complex system they use in the…

BMW makes a triple turbo diesel I6 if thats what you are into.

does the a4 really? is it a transversly mounted engine now? that’s actually super interesting

Thats from 5 years ago, I’m guessing the haldex and ABS based “lsds” have come a long way. Actually I am not guessing I KNOW they have come a long way, maybe still not as good as subaru’s but subaru is no longer untouchable.

Thanks for the great writeup! I was under the impression that all subarus were still using the setup found in the manuals other than the trick center diff in the STI. My biggest point of argument is that for your average consumer buying an awd wagon for “safety” is that the haldex system will realistically perform…

Very good point my thinking is its not essential for most drivers to get more than 50% torque to the rear wheels in a nose heavy car. I know guys who have run spools in the sti have blown up the rear diff at close to stock power levels though. You are right though in that the subaru system is a more capable system…