honestly wasnt our first pick lol... but when we got the price, nobody else was able to come close... as a car, it’s fine, but as a toyota, its certainly been a disappointment.

after lease + buyout + tax on buyout, it comes to $32k all said and done. which for a $45k (before tax) vehicle, it wasnt too bad.

And he’s funding a guy campaigning to kill electric cars if he wins. It’s a shame Tesla’s board isn’t independent and so isn’t able to crack down a guy damaging the company.

Here in the Bay Area Tesla’s are stacked at every stoplight and intersection. Half the kids at our school get dropped off in Teslas. It’s been like this for years but its changing. Now we see a lot of Rivians, Hyundais, Kias, and a few Lucids and BMW i4s in the mix.

I have a leased Mach E GT for a daily and I’ll never to back to ICE for an everyday car. I have a GT350 as well so I get my fix for a manual and glorious V8 sounds.

BZ4X deals on leasehackr were nothing short of amazing. Some under $100/month.

“A lot of publications seem to be running stories or editorials talking about the collapse of EV sales and how everyone pushed too early and blah blah blah.”

Including Jalopnik, irritatingly.

I’m curious how cheap the lease and buyout actually was.  

He’s alienating progressives, who are most likely to buy an EV, and cozying up with conservatives, who are least likely to buy an EV. That doesn’t really bode well when you’re the CEO of a company that only makes EVs.

Did you read the article, though? Tesla’s actual sales numbers are going down while those of most of other EV manufacturers are going up. It’s not a case of “a smaller piece of a bigger pie,” it’s just less, period.

I would have a Tesla by now if Musk weren't the CEO. I can't justify giving that man my money.

Tesla is having a classic problem for an early market leader- They never had to compete with other EVs, so they didn’t have to advertise, they didn’t have to do constant refreshes on their look because they were the market. Their selling point was, “You want an EV that’s good? That’s us.”

It could be a brilliant strategy if it weren’t for the folks impressed by his BS also being the least likely to buy an EV because of the culture wars...

Huh. Wodathunk having your spazztic cretin of a CEO alienate your biggest buying demographic would be bad for sales?!

Hertz unexpectedly dumping all those Teslas has simultaneously made a bunch of used Teslas available, lowered the resale value and total cost of ownership proposition and made for some bad press for just Tesla. Elon’s antics with X don’t help...

I wonder why this is a problem that bELONgs only to Tesla. Weird.

Making your face the brand identity, and then making “scumbag” your brand, really working out well for Elon and Tesla. Totally worth those billions.

Can’t say it enough times.  Only Tesla is suffering, everyone else...the global EV market as a whole, is moving forward at considerable speed.  The ‘great change over’ is closer than a lot of people want to believe.