in the UK, the debate on the Guardian was pretty much about menz:

I hope it will become a hate crime in all of the UK. However, looking at the definition I’m thinking, how come this hasn’t been done way earlier?

also, why is it considered to be politically incorrect to call out people on their racist sexist bullshit? That is not PC gone mad, that is populism gone mad.

I don’t think it’s politically incorrect to call out a group of racist and sexist voters out on their stances. I think it would be politically incorrect not to do so.

so everyone is now offended because she said the truth? She didn’t say half, she said his voters can be divided into two baskets, meaning that the basket full of haters can be even bigger than 50% :P (or smaller of course).

Sappho would approve :P

unless her family would decide for her to marry, which would be very likely. I agree with her in that she’s ‘living the feminist dream’ because what all those bad gals and Eves now burning in eternal flames have achieved for her, is precisely the choice that she’s free to make.

if it would ever be fixed, it would not be a Catholic church anymore. Catholic church fixed is basically all the other churches that split from it during and after the Reformation.

logically not, but people are complex contradictory creatures.

Ah sorry, I thought this was a place for a discussion. My bad.

my personal view is such that I express my disagreement and at least try to hold them accountable. This extends to Catholic church as well.

How likely is that to occur, given that attempts at reforms are well-documented at least since the 16th century? Women can’t even be ministrants, let alone priests. None of you will live long enough to see any significant reform happening.

how about the countries where Catholic faith is not a minority one? How about Central and South America especially in light of the recent Zika virus case? How about millions of women in Europe who don’t have access to legal abortion because of direct and indirect political influence of Catholic church in these…

their voices are not being heard then, because in many countries, including Ireland and Central Europe Catholic church actively promotes ban on abortions. In Poland they succeeded. To pretend that this issue can be just dismissed because plenty of people within the church disagree, is naive, because it has real…

and they do so. For example, after the fall of communism when the abortion was freely available in Poland, with the growing influence of catholic church in the country, women’s reproductive rights were severely curtailed. Currently the discussion in the country considers a total ban on abortions. That is something I…

how can you know that? What would happen would most likely depend on the numbers of people leaving.

with Catholic church it’s a bit like with that tale about the naked Emperor. So far, especially many Catholics in the West are still willing not to point out that the Emperor is naked.

exactly. Instead of that, the Catholic church distorted everything, turned it 180 degrees around and institutionalised it. And as many comments here confirm, people are only able to subscribe to this particular church by willingly turning a blind eye to these contradictions.

and also, just because people can inwardly ‘cherry-pick’ their religious principles, they still legitimise Catholic views by openly proclaiming themselves to be Catholic. This is their choice, which I respect, but personally I do not agree with it.

internally though. On the outside, I would love to see someone attending a mass challenge a priest when praising virtues of female virginity or the evil of abortions. Or even in a private discussion with him for that matter.