I had a Ford dealer tell me that the Ranger 4x2 I was looking at on their lot was a 4x4. The sales guy even got under the front of the truck with me and, pointing at the steering rack/tie rods said “see? front axle, this is 4x4".

Oh yeah. I bought a used Infiniti QX60 from a Lexus dealership this year. so many things work in your favor:
1. the salesperson might not know a ton about the car you want, so they can’t spend a ton of time on “all the bells and whistles.”
2. they took it in a trade, so you know they ripped the tradee’s face off on the…

My go-to has been to show up at the dealership an hour before closing with my four small kids and just let them run loose. 

Yup. We pulled our dying sienna with an active transmission leak (stopped every 100 miles to add a pint of ATF) into the service bay of a high-end Infiniti dealer. Told them we were there for the trade-in Sienna they had for sale. They couldn’t be rid of us fast enough. They even asked if I minded screwing my own…

Mine was in 2006, at a Ford dealership in either Burbank or North Hollywood (I forget which). I was tired of dealing with my manual Mazda Protege in LA traffic, and wanted to trade it in on an automatic Focus. They had the car I wanted (ZX3 SE, in black) so we sat down to figure out the deal. I handed the Mazda keys…

Someone else's car is 100% the one you want to get stuck/bashed/etc. I use the work vehicles for most fieldwork for just that reason.

Not always the way life works out to say the least, but the dream solution to this problem is getting in on a grant that’ll cover something from some department’s motor pool rather than a personally owned vehicle...

This is what I call the classic “Asheville Situation” in terms of need. You’re sorta outdoorsy, working on a budget, and want something comfortable for the days you need to road trip to Charlotte.

I think Tom and Torch have figured that out.

Nice find, 101k, its just barely broken in.

You win!  Exactly what I got (found one for $3500)

You know what doesn’t suck? Saving a shit ton on gas. Get a Prius. It'll get you another 300k and save you enough money on the side to where you can buy cheap fun car on days where you want to not drive the Prius 

I had the same feeling until I figured out from the blurb he drives to Indiana for work. 

But why, if you’re going to be stuck in your car for hours, why not a Buick.

I’d want something very comfortable and quiet for that much time in the car, so my first thought was Toyota Avalon. Doesn’t bring much excitement with it though.

I wondered what brought on this comment, then checked your posting history. What’s got you so mad at the world and at random people on the Internet, dude?

The last Mercedes we bought from a friend before he retired, he apologized to us because he was no longer allowed to do the F&I himself.  Before he turned us over to the F&I guy, he told my wife to tell the F&I guy “no, no, no, and no.”

My father’s best response to a high pressure. “How could you not buy this car?” “The price is wrong.” “You won’t buy it over a few bucks?” “Yep, you have to sell it, I don’t have to buy it.”

The employees are likely just doing what they’ve been told, and likely would get fired if they didn’t. Not their fault. The dealer, however, deserves to be named and shamed.

That car says “I am a man but I don’t have a penis.”