The battery health stuff doesn’t work the way you think it does - it requires a base set of known values to be calibrated against. It needs an accurate projected cycle count which isn’t something you can just measure off the battery, it’s a spec the batteries are manufactured for - i.e., the OEM battery is built with…

Vape pen batteries are not more “high tech” than an iPhone battery - LiPoly is LiPoly - it’s the calibration, guaranteed cycle count, and known discharge rate that set them apart. If every third party battery on the planet had the exact same discharge rate and guaranteed cycle count, you wouldn’t need the advanced…

1. But they *aren’t* that hard to service. You just have to have access to the appropriate tool to calibrate the battery. They don’t physically prevent you from doing it - they just bar access to battery metrics for an uncalibrated battery. That’s it - but they can’t guarantee the calibration will work with a third…

Yeah, honestly cameras as a deterrent is much preferred to cameras as a means of potential remediation.

People are willing to give up a *lot* for convenience. 

Sorry, a bunch of people obsessively latched onto that - couldn’t sort you from them :)

The suit doesn’t matter as much as the headline does. Even if it’s incorrect, a negative headline for a safety issue could cost a lot. Even if media retracts it, the damage is already done.

I didn’t say “people are stupid and only corporate-trained people are not”. I said that certified technicians have access to tools, parts, and processes that the end user does not. If an end user wants to get certified to gain access to those tools, parts, and process documentation, there’s a certification path for…

Well, you may mock them for their technology - but they’re worth billions and general consumers flock to their products. Apple never tried to market cutting edge tech, they managed to create a cult of “cool” and it seems to be working. I do think 30% is high, but as the company developing the platform, providing…

The batteries in the remote for your TV aren’t calibrated for a specific discharge rate or cycle count. There’s no comparison there.

You do have the right to repair your device, and put in whatever battery you want. You simply do not get access to battery metrics intended to be used with a battery that has very specific known parameters for both cycle count and discharge rate. Yes, I do think they should make it easier for end users to swap the…

When they do, they can pull diagnostic data and determine if it’s a widespread issue and potentially issue a recall. Thats what the post-install calibration and serialization process is all about. 

Yes, you and thousands of others, vs. millions with lead acid. If that’s the one thing you can fixate on, more power to you. 

The built in battery metrics can only provide accurate data for a calibrated battery with a known discharge rate and cycle count - a third party battery does not meet those criteria, so they do not show you the data. If they did, and the data was inaccurate due to either a lower potential cycle count or…

Mechanical parts and electronic ones, especially something carefully calibrated for discharge rate and cycle count, are not the same thing.

Did you pay attention to what I replied to? A respondent compared a phone battery to a car battery they replace regularly themselves. That isn’t a hybrid - hop off your soapbox. 

Oh there totally are, but I believe the statistical likelihood of the respondent having one is low.

I ride the fence between agreeing, but also seeing Apple’s point. They’re a very image centric brand, curating the service process helps to maintain that image vs. catering to people that want to tinker.

After you perform the battery calibration it’ll accept the different battery, you just have to have access to the service diag/calibration to calibrate and reassociate the part. 

I get what you’re saying, but what manufacturer service process *does* do electronic component diagnostics and repairs? I’ve never encountered a single computer manufacturer that does, only third parties.