Correct. The ‘dealer’ called the cops when reporters showed up to expressly get his side.

Perhaps read

Yeah, no.  EV sales are *growing* for almost every other mfr.  Tesla is the current big daddy so their nose dive makes the market look soft.  Reality is increasing sales.

They are. The bells n whistles being added to *every* care, EV and ICE, make most of them ridiculous to maintain. Hell there are cadillacs being *totaled* because of a blown tail light. When companies skimp on providing replacement parts, that makes maintenance harder.

yeah my first thought was go around, but you make a good point....uh go around *where* since there’s a plane rising right below you!

4th Gear:   My ideal trade in situation is it being slightly less than the cost to junk it.   I am the industry’s worst nightmare.  I generally buy new...but drive things into the ground.   2 new cars this century does not make sales people happy  lulz

Perhaps we should offer them a one time replacement with that stipulation.

I’m actually fine with federal money to buy them out.  150% of current market.  Still cheaper in the long run

One thing they most definitely have in their couch cushions is....sand.

Actually this is an excellent comparison.   It shows just how stupid you will look driving a Cybertruck and pretending it’s at all ‘good’ at it’s intended purpose.  (well other than meglomanic ego fluffing at which it reigns supreme)

yeah that’s the worry.   agreed sensor calibration will be a fairly technical but ‘tool’ driven process, but it’s still liability for life n death that has to add into the costs of that tooling I’m guessing.

It’s a real problem living it’s best life.

2011 Soul and 2012 Insight here in VA/DC, barely 100k on either and mostly we don’t drive them that much. Both still work like champs.   Some road salt but not like home in NY.

Do you have insight into the liability aspect?  all those sensors needing to be re-calibrated to absolve liability seems like the real expensive problem

“If you have poor habits drive like a normal person, get in the car and drive”

Infiniti M30 Convertible. not technically production but definitely a model they sold.

Exactly, can lose almost 10-15% range going from 15" to 22"

Smaller wheels *increase* range. 16 inches would probably add 30 miles.

You misheard. We said “Make EVs out of existing regular cars”.

I just don’t think I’ve seen anything *that* low before.   Or why anyone would buy something with even a hint of being that unreliable.