I think the difference is that people love and respect the Beetle despite it’s heritage not because of it. And even though it is humble and not high-priced, it has certain historic and cultural associations. On the other hand, the Benz’s value, or attempt to inflate it, is at least partly derived because of its…

Well, VW has the actual Hitler Beetle cabrio, but you don’t see it paraded around in Pebble Beach, do you?

Yes, a car designed to Hitler’s personal specifications, and who’s original purposed was to finance the Nazi war machine.

So we’re just saying the quiet part out loud now, I guess. If you’re wealthy, or enjoy the things that wealthy people enjoy, you’re a fascist.

Edit: I may have misread your comment, I realize now that you are probably referring to the original creators of the car, not everyone at Pebble 2021. Apologies.

Welcome back Max. I genuinely appreciate you showing up to help us dunk on Nazis.

1. I don’t think that’s true.

A lot of commenters on here are going to be like “well what did you expect form these people?” and there’s something there but think about it this way: if not one points out that it’s fucked up to venerate toys built by fascists to congratulate other fascists on how fascist they are, these people will just keep doing…

Don’t you own a Nazi-designed Beetle?

“Federal mandate” usually cuts through that just fine. 

im all for it. ive got a house so charging isnt an issue.

It’s really not so complicated of a problem that a standard that covered all reasonable requirements couldn’t be created.

I think 2030 is the right number. Plenty of marques have said they are going to be all electric before 2030. I have to imagine that all of the domestic cars and CUVs will be electric by then, as well as a good chunk of the full size pickups.

When transportation contributes a whopping 25% of all greenhouse emissions...ya, if we are going to catch this runaway train called Climate Change we need to start addressing all the elephants and hippos in the room.

I’m not saying you need a perfectly clean, zero emission ship. But if you can move the needle some amount, like maybe even a 10% improvement, that is a HUGE overall impact. Fifteen of the biggest mega-ships alone account for as much pollution as all 760 million cars worldwide do. Is it really more difficult to make a…

I recall seeing something about new fuel restrictions (sulfur content) for shipping. It’s progress.

“companies aren’t going to want to have two completely different products in the globalized market between EU and US cars”

Personally, I think this ship is in motion from a purely capitalist perspective – companies aren’t going to want to have two completely different products in the globalized market between EU and US cars – and major manufacturers are all going to grind towards EVification whether the administration tells them to or…

The title says 2050 but the article says 2030.  By 2030 isn’t “weak ass-shit,” it’s realistic. Moreover, it’s completely fair for PHEVs to count towards that goal as they can do 90% of driving in EV mode for most drivers, which gets more out of our limited battery supply. 

enough plugs for when everyone has an EV?