Yes, I’m that person :)

hah, yep! they could at least start by putting it in Jeeps over here too. I’ve always liked the GC, despite its age. A PHEV in the new version would appeal. 

“Magic carpet” was the description Citroën used to describe their hydropneumatic suspension cars, with their trademark green spheres. They’re using “hydraulic cushions” now instead of spheres, I hope that means these can live up to the spheres’ heritage.

Confusingly, the C5X is actually fabriqué en Chine, or even made in China.

Probably, but in my opinion the larger Citroen sedans and estates have generally looked fantastic in large part because of the grille and logo up front. A large Chrysler logo and grille that can be made to look like a Bentley would just ruin it.

You must mean that perfect combination of wagon and crossover.

They could confuse the heck out of people and call it the 200.

Have you driven more modern hydropneumatic Citroëns? Like an XM or first or second gen C5? They already drive very different from a DS or SM.

Yes, those are all wagons. As is this Peugeot 508, which is assume is on the same platform as the Citroën.

Having owned a Citroën DS and an SM, I’d love to drive it to see if the suspension really feels like a hydropneumatic one. I’m doubting that, plus you wouldn’t have all the features like driver-adjustable height or the slick tire-change trick. The C5X would hopefully be cheaper to operate than the SM though!

Stellantis could literally shove a Chrysler badge on this and sell it immediately here in the states. I think it’d sell. 

...or a Buick TourX if you squint hard enough. Them Europeans love their estates:

If your concern is CO2 emissions, none of that is relevant to the point being made.

Nice Honda Accord Crosstour bro.

That’s not what I said. The engine and gas tank are on PHEVs to allow it to drive a long distance beyond local driving. A BEV’s battery capacity that allows a range beyond 100 mi is to allow it to drive a long distance beyond local driving. That extra mass serves the same purpose. Both add considerable weight to the…

“dragging around a bunch of weight for things they don’t need most days.”

I think the main issue, as pointed out in the article, is that it is alleged that PHEV buyers don’t charge them nearly as often as they should for maximum emissions savings. I’m sure many buyers only get them due to financial incentives or special privileges (i.e. HOV access or central-city access in many European…

The difference in weight between an PHEV and a BEV is NOWHERE close to 800lbs, in fact in many models, it’s less. Compare the Porsche Panamera E-Hybrid to the Taycan Turbo S. The Panamera weighs 200lbs MORE (up to 5,400lbs) while the Taycan Turbo S (5,100lbs).

I think the issue was that early PHEVs didn’t add enough range to really move the needle. There were a bunch of 11-25 mi range PHEVs initially... or the longer range ones had usability problems (batteries taking up all the cargo space). As batteries shrink and the hybrid/battery system becomes more integrated into the…