They’re too busy shooting unarmed black men to actually do their job. ACAB.

The MPG is whats keeping me away. I hope the PHEV version will at least have 50 miles of electric range. 

Hey at least the Hummer has recovery hooks

Yep.

It’s a 60F morning in late January in Pennsylvania. Not sure if 9000lb EVs are what’s gonna do it.

I took my ‘82 2wd Subaru GL down trails in the Maine woods you never would have thought a small car could go. It doesn’t mean the thing was amazing off road, it just means I was a young idiot who didn’t know any better. <shrug>

It always brings a smile to my face when I get to the end of a gnarly road and see a bone stock Nissan Sentra sitting at the trailhead. Clever driving will get you far.

50 psi!!!! normal tire pressure??? Is that sidewall max? Airing down to 30?
Most vehicles start at 30-36ish and air down from there. No wonder it doesn’t get traction. And those tires are barely off-road capable. Give it a set of KO2's and then test it (and watch range plummet).

Uhhh, they can literally buy or rent another OEM’s truck and take it apart to see what they did, just like the other OEM’s do. This is completely on them. 

Yes, but...no. It’s the 2020s and automotive engineering is taught in college and grad school, there’s nothing that’s hidden anymore. And Tesla, just like every other auto manufacturer, is free to purchase their competitor’s vehicles and reverse engineer everything they need for their vehicle.

I’m not surprised. We’ve taken our Crosstrek places you would never think a small car would ever go. 

Sure - but that’s why a reasonable, responsible, company will take measured steps and not market their CyberTruck as the ultimate do anything, go anywhere, conquer everything uber-vehicle. Hell - based on the ranges people are getting, their half-cooked release isn’t even good at the very thing Tesla is expected to…

Hyundai is a company on fire. They’re just killing it.

Silly dealer markups are entering a new....

Let’s suppose these simpletons had paper maps in their vehicles. (And the rudimentary skills at reading a paper map.) If those “geniuses” checked the paper map versus what Google directed them to do, maybe, just maybe they wouldn’t’ve gone a folly adventure by noticing the Google road was not on the paper map—it’d…

Don’t forget that it should also cost under $20k.

This is no good, my daily  commute is 450 miles one way and I tow 7000lbs, I cant wait 20 minutes for it to recharge ! I want a 6000sux

Could this be a preview for the underpinnings of the next generation Lexus ES? The hybrid I mean, not the fuel cell version. I can’t imagine that Toyota wouldn’t try to spread the development costs across multiple models.

yeah.... ive never been one to care much for a toyota, but damn.. the crown is a sharp looking car. my grandfather had a 7th and a 9th gen when i was growing up.

you can make it across the country, mainly because the country is pretty small. they’re still pretty few and far in between. the closest one from where i grew up is still about 20 minutes away. otherwise theres another one like an hour in the opposite direction.