Ha! Pretty much as far away as possible. Just north of Clearwater, FL. Maybe the driver gets around? :-)

I also saw a Rivian over the weekend.

Saw my first Rivian last week as well - looks quite “normal” compared to other cars. It was in a dark grey (El Cap Granite) and looked quite nice.

Yeah I live in Ann Arbor, MI. It’s a slightly more affluent area and definetly one where you might see more EVs than the average place. I see tons of Tesla (not even worth commenting on), some of the new VWs, some of the new KIAs, a lot of Mustang Mach-E, Rivian trucks, a few F150 lightnings, Lucid, polestar, and even…

I probably see one every other day. I even saw a Lucid just yesterday. 

There are a few around me - they are bigger in the metal than I expected, but still reasonably sized. They look very useful.

Me too! It also was black and beautiful. And much bigger than expected.

I saw a Ford Mavrick in the wild for the first time on Saturday. It was more sedan size than I realized from the pictures.

The Hummer hides it’s bulk like the Fantasia hippos in tutus

“or will the all-electric Vette be something else entirely?”

Except without the beauty.

if anything, the Genesis design language has a bit of that ‘smooth simplicity’ that Saab espoused in its late years

Not a bad idea, either, since ceramics hold up over time (not a scientist just looking at my toilet).

they felt so nice to touch

We live in a nice-ish neighbourhood, in a city with an incredibly high median income (we are not part of that median income). These things will be fulfilling their intended purpose by September: Ferrying nouveau-riche trophy wives from McMansion, to Starbucks, to school drop-off, to yoga, to (? fuck who knows, I work…

J/LR resorting to using a BMW engine in place of the (obviously soon-to-die) Jaguar V8 is full-circle, considering the L322 (2003-2012) Range Rover was developed under BMW, and that the earliest versions (2003-2005) used BMW engines, including the M62 V8...and were essentially made of BMW kit, like the current Supra.

I don’t mean to be a fanboy, but I really want to understand how you relate this 7er to this:

Somehow I think we’re more than a few years off from worrying too much about used car residual values. 

I’m reading through the comments section and there are A LOT of people who haven’t driven a Kia in 10+ years in here.

Too bad you have to go to a Kia dealership to buy it, an experience that—nine times out of ten—will leave you feeling so frustrated and abused, you’ll run straight to the nearest Audi dealer for a considerably costlier A/S5 Sportback, or to the BMW dealer for a considerably uglier 430i/M440i Gran Coupe.