Ah, i was just making things up and didnt think about the (now obvious to me) fact that not all 330m ppl are working in this country. Doh.

Theres probably ~50m ppl who make ~100k+ a year in this country. But speaking as one of those ppl id never in my fucking life pony up for a car payment like that.

Fit means go

Longtime owner of various Nissans - my experience mirrors yours. Agree across the board. 

I agree w/this. I have a friend who earlier this year bought a 2021 Titan Pro-4x after looking at Tundras and F150s for months and months. He was looking to replace a 19 year old Subaru and a 15 year old 4Runner with a single vehicle that could tow and they could put a slide-in camper into and go off into the woods…

Before i express my opinions going forward ill be sure to check in w/you whether or not you find them ridiculous. 

Um, David Fucking Tracy wrote here for years and years and he was all about unsafe and unsound pieces of shit driving around. Maybe he didnt actively do a defeat on emissions on a vehicle and set it up to roll coal but thats cause every vehicle he had/drove was already so old and decrepit it was spewing emissions…

Sure, and i welcome it but if its ok with you ill still find it a bit surprising. Ill tamp it down next time though.

Good stuff and surprising in a good way that Doug got a byline here. 

Canyonero or gtfo! :)

Unfortunately my daily commute is 747 miles. This just wont work. EVs are useless. 

ah, my bad for expressing my opinion and multiple ppl interacting w/me! clearly thats my fault.

The fanciest car i own is a 2015 Xterra. meaning i dont really give a shit about fancy interiors. Its just more stuff to break/go wrong. I just want reliable and functional. 

All of those other cars you name look better, imo. I am not saying they look good but theyre better than this automotive example of narcolepsy. 

Thanks for looking up the numbers. Thats more than i would have guessed. Ive seen very few of these out here on the Western Slope. 

fair

No, i havent sat in one. I hate the outside so much the inside would have to be made out of baby unicorns for me to like it. 

Yeah, why buy this over any of its competitors? I honestly cant think of a single reason.  

ha! i laughed at your first remark.

The Grand Wagoneer is such a fucking snooze of a car. Its huge and fat and bloated and anonymous AF. Its a real miss, imo. Just a pointless vehicle.