Taking out of the equation of whether unions are good or bad...if the main goal is to encourage adoption of vehicles that reduce emissions, then disincluding the largest manufacturer of those vehicles from benefiting is a bad incentive.

Tangent on the state of Kinja commenting: I noticed that we again have stories that have garnered much interest. I can see that by the hundreds of comments.

Global warming doesn’t give a crap if your EV was made by a union, made within U.S. borders, made with a gazillion kWh battery, sold by a dealership, or boosted by a Bond villain. We should apply incentives to increase EV adoption across the board, vehicles and infrastructure. We should prioritize mass market (aka…

I fail to understand how using federal incentives to encourage adoption EV - to pursue the goal of reduced emissions - has anything to do with union labor.

I don’t agree with Elon on much, but I do on this point. The federal government shouldn’t be funneling money to unions. Incentives shouldn’t be politicized. EV incentives should focus on EVs. Reasonable restrictions would be requiring it be for cars under a certain cost, or cars that get a certain range, or even cars…

I mean, VW did arguably MUCH worse, and they’re still the biggest auto maker on the planet.

Translation:

“I am looking at a couple of options, none of which are paying on it because I feel that would be to acquiesce and it’d be an admission of ownership,”

My thoughts exactly. Another thing that bothers me is that carbon and carbon dioxide are two totally different things. The term ‘carbon emissions’ needs to be replaced with ‘CO2 emissions’. 

I HOPE IT IS IN ALL CAPS!!!!11!1

Wait until he learns about Facebook!

Nothing says Boomer like thinking that a full page ad in a local South Carolinian newspaper will accomplish anything.  

they give a shit about the workers. but they also give a shit about vacations and fancy watches. humans are capable of giving 3 shits at once.

I can’t speak for Toyota facilities, but I have worked for two big players in aerospace. One with a very strong union (in fact it’s the Canadian UAW, Unifor) and one without. Both companies need the exact same talent set in their shops.

Awesome, tax incentives to help automotive unions. So the UAW can instill more crooked leadership and in another 10 years we can have another investigation into how corrupt they are. And they can “clean house”... again. Wash, rinse, repeat. All the while American taxpayers are helping give them a leg up.

Raph’s comment “Maybe they should unionize! Seems like a win-win.”

You can be pro-union and anti-UAW. Even other unions don’t like them.

Yeah, and the pure as the driven snow UAW just sat idly by, not spending a single dime to try to unionize these shops, all while the poor, dumb, stupid workers didn’t know what to do when it came time to vote because they’re too dumb and stupid so they just threw up their arms and voted no.

There are plenty of examples without big manufacturer’s help that have shown the negative side of unionization as well.

I disagree with his take. The GTA Supra has too many hard edges on the front and it looks like a kit car version of the real Supra.