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The CT4 is a facelifted ATS.

Also, the CT4 isn’t “all-new.” It’s a heavy ATS facelift.

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AMC did indeed sell cars new in the UK back in the day. They even had their own subcontractor convert them to RHD in country.

If you want inefficient, you should see how Aston Martin was building cars well into the 1990s. Engines and bodies would be pushed on carts outside one part of the factory, across a street, in the open, to another part of the factory by hand.

What amazes me is how wrong they got the ‘70 Grand Prix, but how right that image is when you look at the ‘71 Grand Prix and Bonneville.

Yeah, Michigan is constantly in need of massive infrastructure fixes because of the weather. And your area has for too long been sidelined. That sucks for sure.

1. Your statement was untrue. Moving the goalposts doesn’t change that.

We had 2 big infrastructure bills in the Obama years:

I’ve said it to you elsewhere, but for the benefit of lurkers, that’s a big NOPE.

LOL...right, because 100% of government revenues come solely from people who pay income tax. And no money from anyone who doesn’t pay income tax ever makes it into the treasury.

Every car that did better than 18mpg combined survived Cash for Clunkers. They weren’t eligible in the first place.

We can actually do all of those things. The Federal budget isn’t $45.4 billion/year. It’s much higher than that.

Yup. And the Rogue is built in Tennessee.

1) The Versa and Megane are in 2 different size classes and are architecturally unrelated to each other.

Structurally, they changed nothing. The roof, doors and apertures, floorpan, suspension, pillars, bulkheads, etc. are all carried over. It’s got new front and rear sheetmetal and door skins.Cars get new engines and transmissions in the course of their model runs, too. That doesn’t make them all-new models.

Isn’t it strange that Cadillac took what was essentially an ATS facelift and decided to change the name to CT4, even though it’s the same car?

Same wheelbase, same track as the coupe, same roofline and door apertures. The only thing structurally about the car that has changed from ATS to CT4 is the length of the rear overhang (the literal cheapest thing they could change) and the sheer amount of extra styling they’ve troweled on the outside of it.

For 2020, it’ll be in its 8th model year. You may like it, but Cadillac had to kill the ATS sedan off early because very few people actually bought one. You are in a significant minority here.

It’s an ATS with a facelift. Same wheelbase and everything. The only thing they changed was adding a bunch to the rear overhang to increase trunk room.

It’s a facelifted ATS with a new name.