n2skylark
AMC/Renauledge
n2skylark

That’s because it IS from 2013. It’s just a facelifted ATS. Same wheelbase. Same f/r track as the ATS coupe.

The rear 3/4 view really shows how much this is just a facelifted ATS with a name change. The C-pillar and rear door are a dead ringer for the old ATS sedan.

That rear 3/4 view makes the car look a lot like an ATS with more styling crammed into a catapult and fired at it.

Oy. I hope FCA have at least worked the bugs out since the original run. I’d read that the DCT’s were troublesome.

Oh honey. When I traded my 2013 500 Pop hatch in early 2015 after 14mos of trouble-free and happy ownership, the Fiat - which listed at $18,695 originally - was worth half that according to Kelly Blue Book. Of course, I’d paid $5k below list for it. So the bath I took wasn’t quite as scalding as it could have been.

It’s got the Abarth engine with 700lbs added. And complete absence of the Abarth’s exhaust note. Driving the 500L with that engine makes it feel rough and strained under acceleration.

We nearly bought a 500L this year. The refresh was quite minor. But FCA desperately needs to do something about the 500L’s poor fuel economy and NVH issues.

I adored my 500 Pop. The only problem I had was the trim on the shift knob coming loose. It was a quick and easy fix.

Bingo.

It isn’t just that the 500 failed amid a surge in crossover sales and drop in fuel prices. The 500 just hasn’t kept up with the industry.

Not the Hudson Metropolitan? Or the 1958-62 model which was just called Metropolitan since the Nash name was dropped after ‘57?

I think the psychotic bastard’s idea is that the OEM’s could save the money on emissions equipment - which he says costs $3,000 per car in his tweets - and put that money toward improving vehicle safety and cutting the MSRP so they’re more affordable to more people.

This kind of thing is cars has been happening since cars were a thing. Here’s a ‘53 Pontiac hood ornament with Chief Pontiac’s light-up head at the end.

These sensors remind me of the Malaise Era when 5mph bumpers were just tacked on to the ends of the car without much thought given to integrating them into the existing design. Companies just sort of said “fuck it, who cares?”

For those of you confused by the “2-door sedan” nomenclature, it dates way back to when closed-body cars came into vogue 100 years ago and multiple versions with multiple configurations were made on the same chassis.

The current Z is still on the platform used in the 350Z, which debuted at about the same time as the RX-8.

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The Gremlin was really cheap and it competed with stuff like the Pinto. It was designed for young, frugal buyers.

By 1977-78 it was. In 1979-80, it was just a sporty Spirit.

They were called trim levels. Kinda like how there’s a Honda Fit LX, Honda Fit Sport, and Honda Fit EX.

BMW tuned the handling on the AMX/3 as well. AMC really should have made it.