Changing things from the original doesn’t make it qualify as “quite a mess”.

Great, now I can finally watch the video for “Sabotage”. I’m sure it’s finally out now.

I should add that I really hate the Star Trek Gatekeepers. Enterprise is not DS9 is not TNG is not TOS. They are all different.  

The first season is like 80% Next Gen with some juvenile humor added. The second season is like 95% Next Gen

Yes, but is it funny?

a “woman” sign on a bathroom door has never ever stopped a rapist. And certainly a tranwoman going in the men’s bathroom is at much  greater risk for assault.

It's TNG-era Trek with better special effects and more intentional comedy

Gotham, to me, seemed to capture the feeling of watching a Batman-themed drag cabaret. I can see how it would find a dedicated audience, but it was too arch for me

In case anyone was wondering what that first ship was that they had to redesign, it was this:

Indeed.  He could certainly exert some control if he cared.  I get that he’s no longer interested in writing or showrunning, but as a voice actor, he’s certainly aware of what’s happening and could put a stop to the show’s worst impulses if he chose to.  

I don’t hate MacFarlane and think he has talent (as well as coming off as a reasonably smart person in most interviews I’ve seen of him), but to say the guy hasn’t slummed for some very cheap, lazy, lowest common denominator jokes throughout his career (too many to count, really) would just be a lie.

That’s only true if your favorite Star Trek is TNG, and you insist that every other Star Trek be an attempt to copy TNG.

He has nothing to do with a show he created, wrote multiple episodes of, has acted in every single episode of, and is executive producer of to this day?

I don’t hate him but wow your comment has gone way too far into defense land. He may not be a writer on family guy, but he is the creator, top billed executive producer, owner of the production company, and voice of multiple characters. It’s not like he sold the show and has no clue what’s going on with it or power…

The first season of The Orville definitely focuses more on Seth McFarland’s comedic sensibilities but by season 2, it’s all but straight-laced TNG with a little humor sprinkled in the background.

his work was the damn benchmark for the lowest common comedy denominator for years

The existence of Wacky Date Rapist Quagmire alone is worth a little hate. He also gave work to James Woods, knowing full well that Woods is a conservative jagoff. Casual misogyny. Unnecessary trans panic jokes. Musical episodes that function as essentially one man karaoke (every Stewie/Brian Road To episode). Which…

It’s pretty much like watching TNG for the first time all over again. Even has the first season helmsman become chief engineer in season two.

Look, I know a lot of people are going to (rightly) point out that Macfarlane doesn’t take nearly as active a role in his animation endeavors these days, but all I’m saying is that it’s a ballsy move for the creator/executive producer/half the voice cast of Family Guy to talk shit about pandering to the lowest common…

Can I just take a moment to appreciate Joe Johnston?