Id be happy with 280-300 hp and the front end components from the CTR. Keep it a hybrid so I can commute with my kids comfortably and not spend crazy on fuel. Then I won’t feel guilty when I really get on it when the opportunity arises.

Agreed there isn’t any grass fed Tibetan lambs wool to remove in order to bring the cost down. The biggest things they can tweak are batteries and motors.

I have a feeling this is an internal admission that the number of people who are willing to spend the money for an EX or higher trim are going to decline to the point that they need a cheaper option to maintain market share. After automakers have spent the last 2+ years build high dollar/value trims knowing they will…

How much of that decline should be attributed to part shortages though? In this instance it might be Toyota has a better supply chain management strategy?

Did you finance through Carmax?

Yeah if I was GM I would question warrantability if I found the vehicle was previously registered and sold as new. Sounds like you had case of fraud on the part of the dealership if they registered the vehicle then still sold it to you as new, especially given the unreported damage.

That’s not how warranties start unless you bought a used vehicle.

You mentioned additional wheelbase, where did that length go? Also what was the backseat comfort/space like?

Administrative leave and only charged 15 months later!

Well considering those pieces are designed to work well for the base model at $50-60k and be profitable, I think they are functional and aren’t completely ugly. I can only assume that there is a reason someone would pay $90k for this and not buy a luxury brand and I bet that person isn’t too concerned with the switch…

Lots of reviews of the manual but very little about the auto. For enthusiasts it makes sense to focus on the manual and driving experience, but I think the bulk of people looking to buy would be more interested in hearing about the auto and how that integrates with the car. 

Seems like an acceptable update if you already had a Pilot. The lack of a hybrid option is very disappointing as the options of hybrid 3 row suv is very limited in mainstream categories. I’m really waiting for an Odyssey hybrid but given this is the extent of the updates for Pilot I have doubts.

I bet they will sell all 10 of them! Then five years later everyone on here will comment about the days of small electric trucks and how modern trucks are just so large and cumbersome.

Is there a clarification that the range listed is the, more favorable, “city” rating and not the actual highway range?

I wonder what mental thought process this revelation would trigger in someone who exclusively drives lifted 4WD truck with a confederate flag sticker somewhere on the truck.

You can build an F150 supercrew hybrid for $47k, which is less than the average for new cars at $48k. So I would say well within the realm.

Ford and Toyota both have a hybrid truck priced within the realm of what conventional trucks are going for. Besides your original comment was about pricing and less practicality. I would say having a hybrid/electric vehicle that gets 2-3x the mpg is pretty practical.

Not sure you can complain that hybrids and electrics are too expensive when the vehicles that are dragging down the numbers are trucks that tend to be fairly expensive, when purchased by individuals. Besides the Prius is well under $30k starting and Toyota has several hybrid models that can be had for around $30k and…

Plug in Pacifica?

If they sell one to one with every TRX in North America I think they will be happy.