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Modern cars are so well insulated that your pipes would need to be obnoxiously loud for this to be the case. As a rider, when I am driving, I am constantly scanning and more aware than most as to the locations of motorcyclists around me. The few times I’ve been surprised by a bike with loud pipes the bike was already

I am actually including sport bikes with race cans, thumpers, and adventure bikes as well. I rode by a stock F650 BMW revving out their engine in an attempt to get a car to make room for splitting. It sounded like the bike was going to break itself in pieces.

The “We” includes riders AND drivers. But you could include pedestrians, cyclists, etc. in the mix as well.

But like running a red, we tend not to break the law and do stupid things if we know the police are nearby. Oakland sideshows excepted of course.

CC Rider, I think this is one of those grey areas. If a driver is driving along in the middle of their lane, I don’t think there is a law which requires a driver to move over to make enough room for a motorcycle to pass. Once a motorcycle is beside them, a driver cannot endanger the rider by purposely moving over to

I’ve posted a chart of the cost benefit curves for lanesplitting before, but I need to refine it due to a lack of clarity of some of the information presented. In short, I drew a conclusion that for me, it is not worth the risk to lane split above 45 to 50mph. I have not had time to read the actual published report,

The problem is it is broken. With idiots splitting lanes at 70 mph and others revving out their life saving pipes, you will eventually piss off the general population to the point where the practice is outright banned.

Reminds me of this:

For a lot less than $20k you could get a clutch shop to custom machine you one, or gasp, rebuild the current one. On this car, does it mater that it is not from the factory?

Alright, you caught me. Still pretty impressive though.

Maybe not precision driving but definitely harder. Hard enough to crush the sense of entitlement one having a license.

Bougie, your first two sentence reply came off edgy so you received the “it’s algebra, dummy” response. But given your questioning of the math, the long explanation of the algebra is below.

$3-4k is usually partiality assembled. There is no one selling newnew kits for these. If you get lucky, you can find a race ready bee for $5-7k. Add to that $5k to get your racing license. Then finally another $5k for repairs, travel expenses, race fees, etc.

SecondMouse, the left side is algebra. If traffic is moving on average at 10mph, and you are splitting at 20mph, it will take traffic 1hr to go 10 miles, while it will only take you 30 minutes to go the same 10 miles. You saved 30 minutes by lanesplitting. The curves just represent all of the combinations of speed and

Wait, you mean like math. You think I’m “claiming” how much time is saved. It is simple algebra. Find an eighth grader if you need some help with the left side of the graph.

Here are some numbers and a discussion to back your post up.

You are correct, I did not take the difference into account. What you said makes sense. Marc is straightening up to dive deep into the next corner and pass on the inside. Vale is taking the gradual line which forces a quick transition, later in time, to setup for the left.

I completely hear you about right of way. But in over a decade of watching the man race, I’m a fan as well, he’s not beyond throwing his weight around.