A 14 second 1/4 mile Camry is quite quick by the standards of yore. It is comparatively no longer quick. Fast? I’m not sure, I think I asked this before, but what’s the top speed of said Camry?

14 seconds is no longer a quick 1/4. I had to correct myself, I made the same mistake as you and used the word fast, when I meant quick. But cars are simply quicker and often faster now than they were. It was once an achievement to do a 14 second 1/4, but that’s no longer the case when a milquetoast family hauler can…

14.3 is no longer a fast 1/4 mile. The bar has been raised.

Nice ride. I like it.

No reason to quibble at all. Quick does not equal fast. A 14.3 quarter mile is not impressive by normal standards.

5.8 makes it quick to 60, but that doesn’t make it fast.

Comparatively quick in its class? Ok, I’ll give you that. Fast? I would disagree. What is the top speed of that car?

100% this. No one seems to know what a sleeper is anymore.

Depends on the car. If it is the actual base model wheel choice, in an otherwise quick and fast car, it could still help the cause.

M5, badges or not is not a sleeper. A sleeper would be a stock 3 series with blown LS motor that posts a crazy awesome 10 second 1/4 time. That said, your car is cool despite it not being a sleeper.

V6 Camry is not a sleeper. 14s is not quick by modern standards, even by the standards of 1996, that isn’t quick. I would expect a peppy family car to post a time like that. I wouldn’t expect that same otherwise, unassuming family car to post a 10 second run. I would say that if you were unexpectedly fast, you could…

No one is saying the dining room should be open. However, a walk-up window or dining room alternative should be provided if they won’t allow a walk-up to the drive through. It is an arbitrary rule that likely has little, if anything to do with employee safety.

It is an arbitrary rule. A remember a time, more than a decade ago where I was traveling for business with no car. I arrived at my hotel late and after many airline delays didn’t have time to get dinner. The only thing open, within walking distance was a McDonald’s. I walked up to the board and they initially didn’t…

I just see it as a mediocre car. Nothing more. Nothing less. It is heralded as the panacea for all auto ills here on the Jalopverse.

I wouldn’t classify myself as a “stereotypical American-car-only” person, but I can and with risk of nonsense flaming in mind, say that I just don’t get the Miata either. They do have their positive traits, but they’re in no way spectacular save for their reliability and general quality.

Torch, I solved the puzzle. Sanders should have simply stated that the bar for fuel economy hasn't been raised commensurate with other technological progresses in the auto industry.

I totally appreciate projects such as this. The amount of effort, time and money needed to pull off a project of this magnitude probably will not ever be justified by a financial return. I appreciate the stories and motivations behind this type of a venture.

Only one thing you need to notice to realize that this just fantasy. The Cali plates. This would never pass the SMOG test.

My wife isn't a car person, though she did watch Top Gear with me. Though her motivations were to see Richard Hammond and not some overpowered supercar.

What if autonomous cars were the punishment for a DUI? Ponder the thought.