“If you want to compare the 4xe to the base-model Wrangler, it comes with a $20,000 higher price tag”

roof type was the big asterisk though. They never compared them to asphalt shingles, instead they compared them to slate or terra cotta roofs.

This. I'd like a minivan for the unparalleled convenience of carrying bikes and skis but I don't want to pay for all the child specific things you get in all the modern versions. Something like you described would be ideal for me 

Where did you get 4 mpg difference between this and the seltos?

I don’t think this is a particularly accurate take.

...after which they cool off by towing their boat - which weighs 10 pounds more than the limit for whatever truck is being discussed and can only be launched on the other side of a steep pass - to the lake.

Minivans are the answer to almost everything which is why, I believe, so many people hate them.

Agreed. I’d love something like a VW Caddy 4motion but we’ll never get something like that here.

I’ve always been a sedan guy because I like having a separate cargo space (hockey equipment stinks!), so I look at this little truck as basically a sedan with an open-concept trunk. That works for me 95% of the time, and I…

Hey Kinja is letting me post!

Said this above, but I think the bike-in-bed photo is deceiving because the rear tire is no where near touching the bedwall. My 20" MTB measures 47" from back tire to head-tube, so you could fit 3-4 of that size (a big bike) straight across the back with the wheels out. My guess is that the photog and ad agency here…

In 2003 when I had to PCS from Norfolk to San Diego (lemme upgrade ya), I bought my parent’s 1991 Toyota Previa. I, and 5 other able bodied college or shortly after college aged men piled in and spent 10 days driving (DC-NC-NOLA, STL, Denver, Vegas, Grand Canyon, SD) in December and Jan. Captain’s chairs in the middle…

Anybody who actually hauls stuff will prefer this to a Tuscon (which it’s based on). The bed has a larger footprint than the Tuscon’s cargo compartment and is considerably easier to load/unload without worrying about bashing your head on the hatch.

I grew up in Vermont and I don’t think most people are understanding what Class 4 Roads actually are.

The roads they’re talking about absolutely were not made for motor vehicles.

I agree that a little more room inside would be nice. I like the idea of this because I could get a truck with a manual transmission. But I have three kids that would probably be a bit squished in there after a while (or right away).

The Texas Trail edition should have a built in generator.

I’m beating a dead horse here but this whole screenshot-comment slideshow-for-clicks format is pathetic.

This would more or less be my preference, as well—a TC that’s rated to tow a modest amount, but one of these small pickups would probably do almost as well.