Yes. For me that is what was interesting about the show, the whole persona that Celeste presents to the world which is a complete mismatch to what is really happening. And the pressure she feels from herself, from her husband to maintain it.

I agree, I also thought it was interesting how it explores the personas of the characters, the masks they wear and how they present themselves. And how or even if they realize that they are presenting a mask to the world.

I agree. I am a DV survivor and rape survivor, and I think this show is doing a good job of shedding light on trauma.

That’s what I love about this show, it shows the complexity of the relationships, and that abuse can happen to well-educated, smart women. That abuse can happen in upper class houses.

Yeah my 5 year old is into mythology too, which I love because I was into myths when I was young. But man, they are so messed up!

I think there is a lot of truth to this.

Yes! And Jane is so vivid, so well drawn.

This is true. Much of children’s stories include terrible fathers and absent or terrible mothers. That’s part of the appeal I think, kids or young people need to rely on themselves because they can’t rely on the adults in their lives.

Honestly, the most helpful books I read were Nurtureshock, which is sciencey about research related to parenting, and I also am a fan of the happiest toddler on the block which has useful communication ideas. Other than that, like others have mentioned, it all depends on the kid.

Absolutely repulsive. Imagine a plate with a chicken breast, nothing else, drenched in caramel. I think after a while I gave up and ate toast...

It’s horrible!

Step in the right direction at least...

Thanks. Yeah I felt really dumb for ending up with someone who was lazy, and it’s not like there weren’t warning signs. Reading through these comments it sounds like there are many women who would benefit by dumping their husbands.

My heart goes out to you. Having a baby and PPD and a husband who was not supported took me to the breaking point. It sounds like you are pulling through. Good luck.

I think there’s some truth to this. However many women find they are stuck in an inequitable relationship but want to stay because the dude has some redeeming qualities, and/or because divorce is hard. Plus, I think that divisions in labor that seem tolerable when there are no kids all of a sudden no longer work when…

Not going to lie, I kind of want to punch him on your behalf. It seems so silly and petty sometimes, but these things add up to major frustrations!

I agree, and it is hard to explain the emotional work. or at least I struggle with it. I eventually had a therapist who suggested that I stop doing it and see what happens. What happened was that we had no sex, never went out, and all he did was watch reality TV. I’m divorced now, and life is better.

Yeah, that is a tough one. I asked my Ex to make dinner one night a few years ago. He grumbled then made chicken breasts cooked in butter and brown sugar. That’s all. I didn’t know if I should bitch about a horrible meal or give him positive reinforcement for doing something at all. It felt passive aggressive and like…

I am so sorry. From what I read, this is just all around a shitty situation. I hope that you can reach out to friends and loved ones for support, that you quickly find a job, and that you are able to extricate yourself from this abusive situation.

My partner doing laundry is the best thing ever. I feel for you.