m4nt3
m4nt3
m4nt3

I'm sure there are grown-up child brides that could make the exact same statement.

Dude. I'm not angry at all. I just am passionate and say fuck a lot.

Again, you are drawing a boundary in the relationship, which is fucking fine. What is not fine is a rule with the implied subtext that you are in charge of his actions. He may know those actions would result in the termination of the relationship,

The exact phrasing is ""He's very territorial, and since he no longer lets me do videos with men"

This is important. It implies HE decides what she does. Right there. This entire debacle is about phrasing, but it is the phrasing that is very telling.

It wasn't a request. It wasn't a boundary. He decides what videos she

He can leave. She can leave! Anyone can leave. At any time! For anything!
No one is arguing that.

You can be angry. You can break off the relationship!
Just like if you got her pregnant, she could go get an abortion against your wishes! Because it's her body, not yours.

Just like if you were feeling frisky, and she totally wasn't, and you forced her to have sex with you, it would be rape! Because it's her body, not

Dude, do you live on earth? All kinds of harmful shit happens all the time.

You are just missing me all over the place.

EVERYONE, I think, except for some outliers, would feel discomfort with sexy gyrations and dancing of their spouse. I completely agree, we are on the same page.

Yes, I judge insecure, possessive people of all gender expressions as shitty.... WHEN THE CONSEQUENCE IS HARMFUL TO OTHERS.

"that he would ever let touch her"
There it is again. She's not his property. Her body is her own.

Yes. both are opinions that claim "Whatever we do in our relationship is our business! It doesn't hurt anyone!", only these examples are easier to show how problematic opinions have effects greater than just in a nuclear unit.... and yes, in this case, the implication that he can dictate, not suggest, not "keep

>innocent until proven guilty
This isn't a court of law. I can assume whatever I damn well please. In a zero information situation, all conclusions are valid.

Why do you keepname dropping him like a fanboy? It doesn't matter.

Again, we can find his sexual desires to be shitty. Ideas do not have rights. I can criticize

It's not invalidating someone to point out they are embracing shitty customs, ideals, and values.

We do it with racists, misogynists, and public figures all the time.

A dude may make Auschwitz jokes with his Jewish girlfriend all the time, and she thinks it's funny and endearing. He is still a shitbag. This is still

"Man bashing".

FFS, protect the poor men! We have it so bad!
I was merely implying putting ANY assumption either way was unfounded.

Right?!

I hate those "inspirational" posters that say things like "I deserve a boyfriend/girlfriend that....... yadda yadda yadda"

NO!

Same exact thing. You control your partner, that is an unhealthy relationship.

If you tell your partner you don't like something, or it makes you uncomfortable; that's fine. Heck, if you say "If you do this I'll leave you." that's fine.

It's the difference between boundaries and rules. One implies you are in a

Well, she was.

Can we stop using the "troll" banner for anyone who steadfastly disagrees with us? It's becoming ridiculous.

That doesn't really work either. Neither of us know him. He could be beating her black and blue. You can't really make a judgement that he's a good person. All we have to go on is a shitty statement. Spare us the theatrics.

Shakira's agency affect more than just Shakira. Actively participating in harmful attitudes gives them your stamp of approval and reinforces them, harming everyone.

Reducto ad absurdum.

It was not him "preferring" it. It was him forbidding it.
If she said she didn't do those types of videos out of respect for her spouse I'd be fine. But that wasn't the case. The way it went down removes her choice in the matter. This is the big deal.
He dictated that she cannot do it.
Which implies

>any vag with a vendetta