m3h
Yeah okay, maybe
m3h

My buddy used to winter an S197 with snow tires. I had an SVTf with snows as well. We went out in Chicago playing in parking lots with 8-10 inches of snow, plowing with the front bumpers, never got stuck. 

Most trucks now days are crew cabs, and cary a decent amount of weight over the rear wheels. My F150 supercrew has 45% of it’s weight on the rear tires which is something like 2750lbs, (that’s before adding up to 36 gallons of fuel.) My truck likely has more weight on the rear tires than most cars have on the front,

As I stated previously, my opinion is that the average driver won’t know nor ever care if a car is a sleeper. Therefore what is a sleeper to them isn’t relevant, and they don’t care nor notice.

I feel like sleepers are only for the enhtusiast though. A normal person isn’t going to care, nor are they going to try to race you. A sleeper is the car that lines up next to you at a light, and leaves your quick car in the dust, and you go, how? What’s in that thing?

Agree to disagree, a normie won’t get fooled as they don’t even care. A sleeper typically is a car that is fast with an unassuming exterior that fools someone who races it thinking it’s slow. The person racing is going to be an enthusiast. An RS4 is not an unassuming car.

90% of the population isn’t going to recognize a sleeper or care. A sleeper needs to fool an at least somewhat of a car person that is interested in the car, or wants to race you. That person would be in the 10%, and 99% of the time know what RS means in Audi terms.

Don’t they say AMG on the back too? Guessing it likely has large Brembos on it too. I just can’t really get behind calling an AMG car a sleeper. It’s generally only going to fool the non car person that probably doesn’t care.

Literally says V8 Biturbo on the side...

Not sure how you can say an Audi RS anything is a sleeper?

Now playing

Audi 200 20v, even better if it’s an Avant.

If you don’t know what 20v cars can do, watch this video:

True, that’s why I don’t have one as well, we do have firesticks, but they are on remote cut offs (cut power) so they aren’t listening when we aren’t using the TV. 

Does anyone make a kit to get rid of the capacitive buttons on the steering wheel? That’s the main qualm I have with the car. 

You’ll probably have to pay to have Alexa NOT be listening all the time.

No. No. No. No. No.

Come on people.

My Large Giant Anthem fits in our 2015 A3 with the front wheel off.

Curious where you got comparable trap speeds?

Car and Driver numbers:
Camry V6 XSE (2018): 14.4 sec @ 100mph
2022 Audi S3: 12.9 @ 108mph

Camry V6 XSE 5-60mph: 6.2 sec
2022 Audi S3 5-60mph: 5.2 sec

The S3 is WAY faster, even from a roll than the Camry, and 7mph is not a small gap in trap speeds. I didn’t find a newer test on

I harshly judge anyone who buys an SUV “coupe”. They should just remove the U at that point, as a ton of the utility is gone.

“I want an SUV, but make the rear seat headroom worse, and lower the ability to haul stuff. Please leave the bad mileage and high center of gravity tho.” 

The Silverado HD is the truck version of this, I can’t unsee it:

I have yeah, its not bad for what it is, but even my F150 is quite a bit quicker. I think C&D has the Pacifica at like 7.3 0-60, my F150 is like 6.1 stock. 

I’d be driving one right now, if it came with a more powerful drivetrain. I don’t have kids, but I race bicycles and would love to throw them in the back. I don’t want to daily a Transit Connect or big van (and we don’t have parking for 3 vehicles unfortunately.) If I could get a Pacifica that was quick? I’d own it