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For high mileage cars I’m a definite subscriber of the “well, now I know that part will last another 20 years” mentality when replacing things.

Jeep Grand Cherokee is like a sleeper luxury car great choice. You fit in at the country club and at the Bass pro shop with one of those 

For some people, the appearance of wealth is far more important than actually building wealth.

#3 - that’s brutal, if a brake job stings and you are taking 6 year loans, why on earth would you ever consider moving into the luxury segment where everything just costs more? Good grief some people need a swift kick in the head.

it’ll keep running even when it’s abused.

Also worrying that you might have to replace the car because you needed to do a brake job is like thinking you need a new fridge because the ice trays are empty. I don’t know how they’re worried that cost would outweigh being upside down on another loan for the better part of a decade.

The person asking about keeping or ditching her boyfriend’s Kia, needs some serious financial counseling. If the cost of replacing a wear item stings, you have absolutely zero business borrowing money to buy a pack of gum, let alone a new car.

100%. The comment on how the cost of a brake job “stung a bit” also seems to indicate that they’re right on the edge of being able to afford a Kia Optima level of car even with a 6 year loan. The real answer to this question is that the cost of maintaining and repairing a used car will almost never exceed the

If they had to get a 6 year loan on a Kia Optima and pay it out to the last month of the loan, they might want to reconsider such a class jump for their next car.

2015 Kia Optima, took out a 6 year loan, still not paid off... wants a (slight upgrade to) new Lexus or Acura, swearing not to take out another 6 year loan... drives over 20k miles per year, but wants a luxury sedan that doesn’t lose a ton of value in 5 years.

Do they ever actually use the word crossover?

Sometimes I feel like cars that “don’t need a lot of maintenance” are just actually better at hiding how broken they are from their oblivious owners.

I remember your van!  We co-commented before.

Somehow I see this as different. It is still a fun low slung hatchback, but with fender flares and fat tires. More rally car than CUV. Perfect for terrible midwestern roads. Modern cars have way too little sidewall. I fantasize about some BFG off road tires on my AWD BMW wagon.

Little car+big lights is my personal favorite genre. I love my Fiesta

I always read Toyotas TRD packages as TURD.

The Dodge Grand Caravan may be archaic, but it’s still a darn good vehicle and accomplishes its mission well. Comfortable on long trips, easy to maneuver and park, plenty of space and plenty of power for what it is. Speaking of that... HEY DODGE, WHERE’S OUR HELLCAT MINIVAN??

Counter-counterpoint: you know nothing and you’re wrong

Head gaskets and cooling on old alloy V6s are always going to be a problem, especially when these cars have been considered worthless for so long. Pajero/Montero/Raider/Galloper are easy to work on and the general build quality, particularly on the later models (88-91), is as good or better than a Hilux of that era

I like everything about this little truck. Except the 2 pc wheels and the seat covers. These are what 4WD was meant to be, not some suburban soccer mom crossover. With the short WB I’ll bet it rides terrible on the interstate at 75 mph. Perfect.