So you grew up after 2016? Because the Pacifica is the only “FCA” minivan on the market.

The Pacifica—sorry, Voyager—is a vastly better vehicle than the old Grand Caravan, so I think the extra few hundred bucks to move to the Voyager would be worth it.

Depends on a lot of factors.

Luxury CUV:

Someone say functional lifted minivan?:

Isn’t that the majority of the CUV/SUV market already?

I’ve driven a few Crosstreks, sure they’re no rocket, but they have plenty of go for daily use.

Never had a need for it.

Most 3rd row CUVs weigh as much as modern minivans, many are heavier. They also have the added ride height, neither of which help their handling at all.

And a Grand Caravan GT or Ford Transit Connect drive even better than the Sienna by a very large margin.

Grand Caravan GT, Ford Transit Connect.

Top Safety Pick.......Driver’s door gets completely ripped off........!?!?!?!

And CUVs take all those issues to the next level while taking away all the usefulness.

Ford Transit Connect is your answer. It’s narrowed than most midsize CUVs, only a few inches longer, gets significantly better real world economy, and does everything a minivan should.

I don’t.

If you have a gas gauge, why do you need a gas light as well?

False. ABS does not help you stop faster. ABS allows you to keep from skidding, which allows you to maintain control under emergency stop conditions.

Americans continue to live outside their means for sake of image.

And if it had a 340 under the hood it would cost you 2-3x this much.

Most modern cars are obnoxiously loud inside, generally ride like shit thanks to their huge wheels/rubber band tires, and generally have terrible engine noise thanks to their CVT transmissions.