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Long_Voyager, Now With More Caravanny Goodness
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Nov 5
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I don’t swing that way......

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The Acclaim will likely need replacing next spring. Mechanically it’s fine, but the passenger floorpan is giving way to rust after 25 years of WI winters combined with POs who thought an oil change every 15k was good maintenance. Read more

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I think I’ve had less terrifying moments on crappy backroads than on normal roads. They usually do just enough around here to make everything a slushy mess. Read more

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In a post about Grand Caravans, GC means Grand Caravan, because no one wants to type Grand Caravan out numerous times just because you’re confused by us using GC in place of Grand Caravan.....

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Um, no? At this point the Grand Caravan is already almost the size of a full size van, same as most “mini”vans.

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Around here GCs outnumber the rest of the major minivans combined probably 3-1 at least. Strangely, Honda minivans are generally the only ones I see broken down on the side of the road?

Nov 4
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There in lies some issue as well. I can get a brand new Grand Caravan for around $22k out the door, meanwhile there are no incentives on the Pacifica which starts over $27k, and the base model Voyager starts at $26k. Why would I jump on the Voyager when I can get a GC for $4k less?

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When the roads get bad enough that I can’t make it on my Grabbers, I just don’t bother even chancing it as I would be the only one to actually show up anyway. Read more

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I have the 4 on the van plus one spare. They’re all 2016 or newer and all 8-9/32s tread. I figure I’ll list them for $200.

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That’s pretty much my experience with the Destinations as well. They have good wet/dry grip. Once they hit snow I may as well have racing slicks. Sucks because they’re almost new tires. Read more

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Counterpoint: The GC still sells well because it is the cheapest minivan on the market, something the Pacifica will never be able to accomplish. Many people need a cheap family transport, the GC fills that perfectly. Read more

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Around here GCs rule the road as far as minivans. After that it’s a pretty even mix of Pacificas, Odysseys, and Siennas.

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Make a performance option, problem solved. ;)

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There was talk in 2018 of building a SWB van off the Journey chassis. I’d be happy with a SWB minivan with the 3.6/6-speed combo.

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They’ll stay on until I get the motor in the van, then the van gets it’s wheels back.

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Eh, WI winters never get bad enough to need dedicated snow tires. Read more