I have not seen any sort of “Misogynistic” lean from the Bernie camp, maybe that’s because I don’t follow the media’s take on what, and who his supporters are.

I have not seen any sort of “Misogynistic” lean from the Bernie camp, maybe that’s because I don’t follow the media’s take on what, and who his supporters are.

Wow. So you discount their opinions(which you did) and make their support irrelavent, and you think I’m talking about you acting like they don’t exist as if those are mutually exclusive concepts? Jeeze, sorry to stress you out there, I’m only accurately observing your behaviour and you’re only trying to weasel out of…

You’re dismissing their opinions, and using them as props. Those are not actually mutually exclusive.

You’re using them as a prop. You can deny that, or dismiss that, like their opinions, but Bernie didn’t and hasn’t.

I’d make the argument that if someone chooses to not vote for a Sanders ticket because of 2016 then they aren’t really a Democrat, just like someone who chose not to vote for Clinton in 2016 isn’t really a Democrat. Only now, we know the price of not voting/voting R/Voting 3rd party, and anyone who tries to justify…

How is it gendered? I tell men and women both to shut the fuck up if they're not helping. 

I don’t get how someone, like yourself who is “pro women” manages to discount, and make irrelevant all the support Bernie has gained from women.

What’s the additional available data complicating that notion other than primary polling, which, as we’ve established, is not data that complicates this notion? There is a small (and very loud!) contingent of the Democratic Party that holds 2016 against Sanders, but vast majority of it not only doesn’t but views him…

But Clinton is erasing them, and that’s who we’re talking about.

You can completely ignore that part of the comment then. I very much remember the exact same arguments being made then.

You can’t even get a national televised 3rd party debate on tv. So I’d say him moving to the Democrats is more of a reflection of our political system than him 

But, like, AOC and Tlaib and the others mentioned there are actually pretty vocal and visible. 

I mean, you can quibble with whether or not Sanders does enough to disclaim the misogyny of some of his more vocal supporters. But that has nothing to do with my point, which is that he has plenty of prominent supporters who are women of color, and you can’t just erase them by painting his supporters as angry white…

In the end, Clinton is giving voice to what has always been the central flaw of the Obama 2008 candidacy: Too many Democrats blame him for stopping the first woman president for him to ever be the unifying candidate he and his supporters claim him to be.

Actually, what I’m suggesting is that what I’m describing doesn’t show up in favorable/unfavorable polling but does likely present itself in primary polling.

Too many Democrats blame him for 2016

That point has absolutely nothing to do with the makeup of the congressional districts those particular people come from. Women of color are probably the most important constituency of the Democratic coalition, and dismissing Sanders’ supporters as angry white men is bullshit when he has plenty of prominent supporters…

Too many Democrats blame him for 2016 for him to ever be the unifying candidate he and his supporters claim him to be

*Too many centrists blame him.