Angry? Because Internet Angry is fun. Righteous indignation is fun.

You don't know that any better than I do. What we know is that CB is incapable of seeing rape as rape (there's a scary sentence) and has explained his experience as a positive thing. It's really not such a stretch to suggest that the girl in question viewed this deviant sexuality as something "normal" (as he suggests)…

I am so sorry for all that's happened to you.

Christ, your post is shattering. I am so sorry for all that you've been through.

I understand what they're saying; she should've had the cognitive recognition to know this was wrong, it was rape of an 8yo, her abuse doesn't absolve her of those facts. But I feel like there are probably shades of gray here that contribute greatly to the situation and I feel a sense of sympathy for her. I mentioned…

I did address it (stop replying, it's all been said, I promise!) along the way. I have the intellectual understanding that this is rape (rape-rape, even), but I find I have some sympathy for her and feel that her own agency has been compromised in the situation somehow. It's a clusterfuck of weird.

You're entirely right, I am getting sidetracked. A zillion posts ago, when I thought there was still a chance this wasn't just "omg, labeled/auntkanye is a rape-apologist, racist, misogynistic moron!" (not to mention "yucky") I was trying to clarify my sympathy for the girl in question. (Sympathy I stated I didn't…

Did you miss the sex with a child is rape bolded part?

Are you for real right now?!?!? Now he's lying?!?!

That may be a part of it. It may also be based on a lot of the kids I know. :(

I think I have automatic sympathy for the same reason many people have an automatic assumption that he's altering a painful memory into a pleasant one - just because I'm human, and it's my feeling after reading how he presented the narrative.

Well, it kind of is about my intent. Because that's all I'm able to bring to the table. It's also become about my imagined or perceived intent and finding a good bad guy in the thread, and to say otherwise is disingenuous. Reasonable people (including ones I know and respect on Jezebel) are inferring what they want…

That's entirely fair - I am completely and utterly making assumptions about the girl in question, which I thought I'd made clear.

I'm not saying she's not culpable, or that all abusers aren't culpable, or especially that all abused become abusers. Because you want that to be what I've said doesn't make it what I've said.

I think you're projecting, because stating that this is tragic for all involved is exactly what it is, it means what it states.

You're assuming I hate Chris Brown*, why can't I assume this 14/15yo was also abused, based on statistical probabilities? Because you want someone to cudgel and eviscerate on Jezebel today?

The fact that you cannot fathom that a 14yo can commit an action like rape, and the fact that it makes you sad; does not "excuse" or eliminate the possibility that actions like this occur, and sometimes it is perpetuated by people in her age range. The fact that you cannot reach that realization says more about you…

I think you're piling on and not reading - really reading - what I've written.

OK, seriously? I made it an aside because it wasn't related to the situation at hand. Then I added this as the very next parenthetical comment: (To be clear again, not talking about children, or an 8yo CB, which is reprehensible.)

They always say you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. Not only does CB not want to be helped, he doesn't even know he needs it.