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@Lawerence - Did a pretty in depth breakdown of this on one of my other posts (made when I was stuck in the grays :) ...), so I can see your argument. That said, I would say both techs need to come a long way.

I won’t argue with you on this, as you seem to be far better versed on the subject than myself. That said, there are obviously minds at some of the largest auto companies that do see some viability in hydrogen as a future option - hence the investment. I won’t put it past corporate companies to invest billions of

I’m not aware of any Porsche investments in hydrogen. They seem to be all in on EV tech... But obviously they’re going to follow the corporate R&D money/strategy that VAG lays down.

Could this be the SpaceX package Musk was referring to!?!? Cold air booster, now hot gas booster? Not the first time he's pulled the bait and switch!

I think many have also forgotten that Mercedes, Toyota & BMW have/are dumping $10 billion into hydrogen fuel cell research together.

Are we forgetting that Mercedes, Toyota & BMW have/are dumping $10 billion into hydrogen fuel cell research together?

Ahh, yet another classic misdirection from Musk:

I would bet most supercar manufacturers have “preferred customers” which really just purchase the cars and specialize in exporting them to countries with various import/export restrictions for high value clients. I have doubts that a low volume manufacturer like Koenigsegg would want to deal with the optics of selling

I would assume they weren’t happy about either situation. Neither is a good look for a small company like them.

I’m not referring to due process in regards to the media covering a story... That wouldn’t make any sense. I was responding to your statement regarding Brown being able to play despite the allegations. I would argue that he should be able to play until he gets his day in court to prove innocence or guilt. I also

I’m not sure. I don’t know how they could really contribute to the situation beyond just saying it exists. You have an individual who has been publicly accused of something, but the details are fairly scarce and no judgement has been given. What are they going to say beyond what they did?

Because (although the NFL doesn’t operate this way) in the U.S. we’re supposed to believe in due process. It sets a dangerous precedent punishing people before they’ve had a fair trial. What if that process takes years? Is it right to upend someone’s life for that long only for them to be found innocent? In this

They mentioned it, but a bunch of predominantly male football analysts IMO are probably not equipped to have this discussion and given their roles - should they or should they even be expected to?

Some of us are already paying $5 (or close to it) per gallon for premium in L.A. Haven’t heard of some dramatic decrease in SUV ownership here...

To quote an earlier poster whilst changing “companies” to “drivers”: “These [drivers] got themselves in to this jumble, it’s their own problem to figure out.” Honestly as a consumer, I’m happy to take up the offer of any idiot who wants to to charge me less than their goods or services are worth as long as it doesn’t

Maybe he’ll “discover” a mono rail company, put a sexy spin on and call it his own. It's not as if he did that when he discovered and took over Tesla... Right?

Thanks Aaron! Someone has to check the utter ridiculousness of Musk’s hype train (pun intended?). Has he created some amazing tech? Yes. Is he totally full of shit. Also yes.

Why did I have to scroll so far down to find this?

Aston should restart the trend of removing side mirrors again as well... Need more aero!

It’s either that or Ferrari finally decided to give a facelift to the 360 Modena.