Honestly you can see it as both honoring his father by also wanting to help others but also rebelling by going with a more blue collar approach like his Grandfather.  There is depth that could be found but I doubt this cash in spin off is gonna go there 

I think (but don’t quote me on this) the second meaning is just an accepted definition that’s come from the word being used incorrectly for long enough that it’s gained legitimacy. It’s kind of like how the word “anticipated”, which used to have the specific meaning of “preempted” (“I’ve anticipated your request and…

That’s how I am about Wings.  When I was watching it in real time broadcast, it was as good as sitcoms get, and then you don’t find it in syndication and it lapses from your consciousness.  Once or twice a year I recall ‘gee I wish I could dial up a Wings marathon.’

Didn’t watch Frasier much, but I always remember this Niles line:

This is just me spitballing, but I think Frasier had an unfortunately perfect formula to slide out of the collective image of ‘what sitcoms were like’ of the era. It has a little bit of the ‘family sitcoms’ before it, a little bit of the ‘people of different lives just bouncing off each other in the big city’ that 90s…

Why do we all rebel against our parents. He went to college, smoked some weed, hooked up with a cute person whos politics and values are the polar opposite of how you were raised.  

I’d forgotten how well-written and acted the original was. It was literally my favorite sitcom for years... and I just forgot about it?

Hey, thanks for explaining to me! Extra points for using both “hence” and “nor” in one comment.

Comedy snobs are almost as insufferable as foodies and beer snobs.

Xennial here.

Also his self awareness really helped you appreciate the character. When he said, “Yes, but I went to Harvard. When I’m wrong, the world makes a little less sense.” You truly feel a little sorry for him even though that’s such as insanely stuck up thing to say.

Very few sitcoms have ten seasons.

Maybe the most moving scene of the whole show for me is where Frasier has spent the whole episode struggling to get across town to accept a hugely prestigious award. And when he finally is about to make it on time by the skin of his teeth, his cab driver starts talking about the serious mental issues he’s been going…

Nah. Some people are capable of experiencing things not catered them and still enjoy it. Studies back up the idea that being able to understand more, different kinds of humor correlate strongly with intelligence and EQ.

I agree with everything here, but the character of Frasier is constantly learning from those around him; he is not a basic elitist. He bites off more than he can chew, and can be oblivious to his own snobbery where he mouths off to anyone without thinking, but his appeal is his desire to learn, and analyze himself,…

You don’t become a character who gets continually broadcast for twenty years by being the weakest thing of the shows you’re in.

Because the fact is that, even if Frasier himself is rarely its best part (something that doesn’t bode all that well for a reboot where he’s the only returning main character, by the by), Frasier remains a shockingly good example of the sitcom form.

We’ll never know!

To be hit by a different, also crappy bullet.

Can we amend that to “Safety Not Guaranteed remains inoffensive and mildly diverting.”