I understand your point, but in the trans community, I believe that’s referred to as “deadnaming”, and is considered rude and gauche.

Since Elliot’s pronouns are “he/they”, both sentences you provided are acceptable.

Now I just want both characters spun off into a shitty detective show called Seven-Eleven.

You can just say he played Juno in Juno, no need for all the “before he switched genders” and “when he was Ellen” stuff. Only one person played Juno after all

The internet’s response looks to be overwhelmingly positive and supportive. There are, without doubt, shitheads out there but I’ve yet to see any. I’m sure that will change if I scroll down just a bit further though.

The best thing you can do is not try to treat gender expression as if it operates under constraints, like grammar or whatever. If a nonbinary person isn’t trying to be an asshole, they typically have a lot of patience for the average ignoramus like you or me.

There’s literally a picture of Page right below the headline and the article clearly explains who he is in the first sentence. Alleviating your momentary confusion is not worth trans people’s discomfort.

“They” and “he” are interchangeable and either can be used when referring to the person known as Elliot Page. English (much like gender in this case) is extremely flexible.

Singular they actually goes way back to the 14th century, though I admit for present day people it can be confusing if it’s not (yet) part of their lingo.

I’m not trans so I may not fully understand this, but birth names for trans people are often/sometimes a thorny topic and often referred to as “dead names” since they’re often used by family to try and re-assert old identities.

If your snarky British superintelligence isn’t being voiced by Stephen Merchant, you fail.

I appreciate your perspective, but personally I wouldn’t be too quick to dismiss your own viewpoint; just because you’re bi and in a hetero relationship, it doesn’t make you less queer than me. It still counts. Your perspective is still valid as a bi person, given bi people have their own stereotypes to contend with.

Yeah - while its entirely plausible that a newly-out trans actor would be willing to be professional about it and continue to play a female role (its not like there’s not a long history of cross-dressing in theater), if there’s any show where a character could say ‘hey, I’m a guy now’ and have it work perfectly fine,…

I yield to this comment. Best one in the thread.

I think that you’ve got the right perspective, but I’m merely bi and in a straight relationship so I pretty much don’t count.

Well look at that! A surprise 2020 announcement that isn’t shitty!

It’s the role Vin Diesel was born to play!

That all seems reasonable. This is kind of nebulous, but I think it bothers me more when it seems like it’s an awards-centric play, you know? Like a straight person playing a gay activist rankles a lot more to me, and it is nice when characters can be casually gay rather than MONUMENTALLY gay. Then again, the Brokeback…

One recent discussion I read (as a gay dude) argues that being gay isn’t necessary to play gay for a couple of reasons. There’s nothing physical about the role that prevents straight people from playing it (as opposed to, say, a white person playing a black character) and insisting on a certain sexuality demands an…

I also love how despite everything he’s put them through, he still manages to catch the sympathy of Alicia/Diane/etc. from time to time (and it invariably comes back to bite them).