The figure is bullshit because it’s 5% of all violent crimes in Sweden. A nation that has a total amount of firearm deaths in 2010 of 138 and a total gun death rate equal to 1/10th of the U.S.’s (1.47 per 100,000 people for Sweden).

Agreed wholeheartedly.

It’s a little late to turn those into NRA propaganda quotes. I pulled them off an NRA website.

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And yet, there’s a lot of people who still stock guns just in case the government comes after them just because of those quotes.

I was pointing out a problem with your entire post: The figures I was referring to, as given by the CDC themselves, only refer to the hazard and conflate that as the total risk to life on a per-year basis. They’re tracking the deaths of firearms and cars in much the same way they track the deaths by influenza.

If you’re actually suggesting we need to regulate guns more because cars are highly regulated, that would be counter to pretty much every post you’ve written so far.

Being part of a protected class like, for instance, having a disability does not guarantee you access to all licenses or even to firearms. Especially since federal law already prohibits the mentally ill from owning firearms.

I meant death rate for cars. That was a definite typo. Star for catching it.

Do you see me claiming any of them served?

I’ve read it. Nothing you’ve said actually disagrees with what I said, and you’re ignoring that the quotes I provided and what I have said do not disagree with the idea most people who supported it wanted it to just avoid paying for an army.

“Danger” is not an epidemiologic concept

And this is how I know you never took or outright failed a gun safety course.

Except that I’ve stated repeatedly that we need more regulation on guns, and pointed to cars repeatedly in hopes people would get the hint.

You mean what was said by this article? It would be nice... if checking their source didn’t reveal the figure to be bullshit. Yeah, it turns out the conclusion of the study stated a different percentage rate than the article did.

Except... the worry about firearms isn’t accidental deaths, but people shooting each other. I’m demonstrating that you are three times more likely to be in an auto accident than shot.

Most people in cities are near a gun on a daily basis. You would be surprised how often you’ve likely passed a plainclothes cop in your daily routine, and I can guarantee you they’re usually armed.

I wish it was a fantasy. Do you know how much easier my job would be if people didn’t have firearms?

They have to present a certification from a mental health professional that says they are mentally sound enough to handle a firearm. It would be a simple “yes, this person is mentally healthy enough to use a gun responsibly.” Does not have to give any more information than that.

Actually, death rates are given not by time spent by object, but in lives lost per X amount of population. The implication is “this is your chances of dying from this in any given year, no matter how much time you spend with it.”