2nd Gear: It will always strike me as curious when a struggling automaker’s solution to their struggles is offer people “better incentives” to buy their cars, rather than making cars that people want to buy on their actual merits.

Put up or shut up, Ford!

This is, unfortunately for our senses of justice, righteousness, and schadenfreude, is 100% correct.  Don’t give them a reason to dig their heels in and double down on the cult.

Maybe, for the long term wellbeing of our country, we should allow those kind of people to slowly walk away from the cult without thrusting it in their faces that they were once members of said insane institution. Nobody likes to feel embarrassed or belittled. We (non-Trump followers) don’t need to be “right”, we just…

Why don’t you take about 20% off over there, Dan.

That’s so unfortunate!  But laws can be changed!

Well, destruction of nuisance vehicles is written into the state law.  Reselling them is not (unless they fail to pay their fine).  It’s a very intentional law.

Yeah sell them out of state. Not that hard.

Don’t destroy the cars (that aren’t beyond saving)!

I don’t think restored cars count. It has to be receiving it’s original title upon delivery to count. At least if I’m making the rules, it does. But I’m not making the rules.

Full disclosue - I had to switch majors from Chemistry to Biology because I couldn’t hack the calculus of P-chem.

First sales were in December, 2007!

Good lord. Did this thing really come out in 2007?

THE first car that came to mind upon reading the headline.

as I share multiple times, if restored cars can be counted as one then Nissan Skyline GT-R R32, R33 and even R34 via Skyline Restoration Program

2 more years, they started deliveries in December of 07, the model is 16 years old now.

Long live Godzilla!

I’m guessing it’ll be in the scrap heap by four or five, rendering subsequent winters moot.

I mean it blows the Z out of the water in every performance regard, so much so that the Z needs the NISMO pack to match its performance. That being said, I’m a diehard Toyota fan and I wouldn’t buy it. Having a BMW engine is disappointing enough, but having a BMW transmission, guages, shifter, switchgear, iDrive,…