Rental variants are hardly a good example of how the vehicle actually is. Now I’m not saying they make specific trims of vehicles for rentals (although some kinda do), you’re basically getting the bare bones minimum vehicle. Cheap interior, cheap tires, poorly maintained, and a transmission usually beaten to the end…

It’s called growth for Ice Cube. Is anyone condemning Snoop Dogg for working with Martha Stewart and doing play-by-play commentary on sports games now?

This right here. I bought an XBone solely for Forza because GT wasn’t that impressive at the time. Now GT looks to be the better game out of the 2. Now if only PS5s were readily available...

Oh swell! A month’s worth of chili cheese for my hot dogs

As much as I agree with you, the slow crushing movement with a power seat is just as satisfying while your friend in the back is pleading “Stop, stop, you’re crushing me!”

I just spec’d out a base entry level 2022 EcoDiesel and it was $49k

It’s an EcoDeisel. That truck probably was close to $45k-$50k.

I got to ride in one of those when they first came out and boy did it feel like it needed at least 50 more horsepower or something

People on this website: “hyper cars are too complicated and fancy with their paddle shifters and hybrid powertrains! We want a simple supercar with a manual transmission and buttons!”

My sister had that feature in her 4Runner and boy it was atrocious

While I agree that boosted engines hardly ever achieve their claimed MPG, I’d argue they’re beneficial because they weigh less and provide equivalent or even more power than a larger engine option.

I’m the guy with the incorrect Mustang and Challenger engine options. Definitely did not do enough research and got those details wrong. Sorry about that.

Look at the Mustang now. The lighter weight, torquey Ecoboost 4cyl Mustangs are putting up comparable lap times compared to its V8 variant. I personally would prefer the V8 in my car, but the pentastar-powered Chargers/Challengers are nothing to turn your nose up to.

Very bad. 

Yup that makes more sense. I remember it being rather large for being so underpowered. 

That further proves my point. If the average car was that slow, it makes the “muscle car” from that era not seem as bad. Fast forward to 2006, where one can get a 300HP Mustang for under $30k, and Dodge is selling 4,000lb vehicles with less than 200hp in them. 

Hardly any vehicle made more than 300hp in that era.

Name another place where two people argue horsepower figures on one of the worst engines ever put in to a vehicle that weighed about 4,000lbs

Even the later gen vehicles had decent V6 power. Once the pentastar arrived, 300hp was the base power for vehicles in this segment

We’re both half right. The 2.7 made 190hp but it was never offered in the Challenger. We’re both in the ballpark lol