No one has addressed aerodynamics so far. My guess is that there’s a reason this truck looks like a trapezoid from the side and comes with a bed cover that seals up the bed—it’s what lets the truck get 200-500 miles of range. From the side, angles aside, the shape of this is evocative of the Prius, Insight, Ioniq, and…

Sure, but I didn’t understand the OP’s objection to be that it would be hard for Tesla to start production because of red tape and government regulation; I took OP to be saying that Tesla has a history of missing deadlines (which is true) and that based on what happened with the slow ramp of the Model 3, we can expect…

On the other hand, they built a factory in China in what...ten months? My guess is that they learned something since/from the Model 3 launch.

Sean Young presenting or GTFO. 

That’s one thing you’ve got to give Ford--their Mach E event was painful dad-joke hell, but it started exactly, precisely on time. 

It’s like a Mach E with less range for more money.

Sure, they didn’t need to do it. But doing it sends a message that they are serious about the product in the way that reviving some other name (GalaxiE?) or coming up with a new name would not have done.

Ford has a larger problem, in that the only car they built (even before deciding to get rid of cars) that had any real nameplate brand equity was the Mustang. On the truck side, it’s the F-150 and Explorer. But if Ford had a “franchise player” on the car side of the house, the Mustang is it. That’s partly a result of…

*You do you, Mary Barra. 

I mean cost inflation is the rule for every car, even those V8 Mustangs that everyone agrees are Mustangs.

It was interesting coming straight from Ford v. Ferrari to watch the release of the Mach E. I mean, I knew the Mustang was designed as a secretary’s car, but hearing Christian Bale-as-Ken-Miles complain about the 64 1/2 put a whole different gloss on all of the criticisms of using “Mustang” as a nameplate here.

*TwinPower Turbo

I mean, so was the Tesla. When I got it, it was a fully finished 450 hp family sedan that could run from 0-60 in 3.2 seconds. Now, it’s a nearly 500 hp family sedan that can run from 0-60 in 2.9 seconds.

I struggle to see how that’s a bad thing.  

I have, because I own both.  I can see the argument about the M3's interior being more expensive, but honestly there are ways in which I prefer the stark minimalism of the Tesla. 

Model 3s don’t handle well?  Which dimension are you living in?

Paint’s holding up fine. Haven’t had any problems with the car in the first year, actually. Which isn’t something I can say for most of the BMWs I’ve owned. 

Assuming the specs and pricing hold up, it’s definitely the closest we’ve see to an honest to god Model Y competitor from any of the mainstream companies. 

But they don’t, though. Have you priced a Model 3 and a BMW 3er recently? A Model 3 Performance goes for less than a 340, and offers performance better than an (F80) M3.

Zing! Never heard that one before.

Based on the specs we’ve seen in the other thread, my guess is that it in top spec it will be quicker off the line than a GT500, at least in everyday driving around town. The Model S and Model 3 are faster than just about any cars in the world from 0-40 or 50, and are *especially* faster from a roll at like 5 mph,…