I always liked the Beretta GTZ. It was a good looking car at the time. I never drove one though, perhaps that’s why I have fond memories of it.

I only find Black and Tan offensive as it ruins a perfectly good stout.

If you go back far enough, absolutely, much like the Chevy Astro. But all minivans eventually went the car based route at the expense of utility.

You might be replying to the wrong person. I got an F-150 because CUVs don’t meet my needs. A full size crew cab is more than I need, the RWD based Explorer might be the decent middle ground.

I agree... the styling is meh, but something can be said for anonymous and there is the much nicer Aviator. Crew cab trucks are great and an F-150 was the route I went but size and fuel economy are less than ideal, especially living and working near downtown Toronto.

Minivans do not make good tow vehicles. Ever try to pull a 4000lb boat up a wet launch with FWD? The Explorer was Ford’s minivan. Ford is finally putting some utility back in their SUV’s. How is this a bad thing?

The only advantages FWD ever had are packaging, slightly better driveline efficiency and weight over the drive wheels providing initial traction from a standstill, all of which are moot with EV’s.

“What about the Alliance???”

I’m guessing not really. The Hellcat is less than half the cost of a P100D.

The resource extraction industries will still exist. It will just be for cobalt, lithium, nickel graphite and others. A few oligarchs in Democratic Republic of Congo will eventually have the wealth of the royals in the middle east.

Upgraded wheels and tires, a few aesthetic changes - that will be a $6900 option.  

It’s as much the Camry’s personality as it is the colour.

The Camry only comes in beige, with a dent in the bumper cap. .

Came here to post this....

It’s a large city, but aside from a few buildings it really is quite anonymous. You could be in any number of cities and not really know the difference. That’s why so much filming is done here, and the USD goes along way with the low Canuck Buck.

Much of Ontario is beautiful. Just don’t go within 100 kms of the greater Toronto area. 

Geographically, you are correct. I’ve driven the Trans Canada from Toronto to Alberta several times. The longest part of the drive was getting out of Ontario. That being said, there is next to no population - or traffic except for within a couple of small cities along the way.

As a Torontonian, what we lack is options. We have only the 401 going East/West from one end of the province to the other, and running right through Toronto. It is also the only highway through the city. We also have a very expensive toll highway well north of the downtown core running as much as $62 (one way) to bypas…