holdfastmcleod
Hold Fast McLeod
holdfastmcleod

I'm not really interested in how many times these people have had sex or whether it was in the morning, the night, in a house, or with a mouse. What is clear, is that by him creating this spreadsheet, he is demonstrating his frustration with his relationship. He is not having his sexual needs fulfilled sure, but the

No, you don't get to say that. I very clearly criticized the husband several times in other posts for his horrible behaviour in handling this breakdown of communication.

Yeah... but... we don't know what housework he is putting in. They just bought a fixer upper. We don't know how much work he is doing to fix it up. There may be inequalities. Sure. But they need to address those issues. Refusing to having intimate relations only shuts down the conversation.

I missed the part where he refused sex in the mornings, yes. I understand that in the Reddit post she suggested mornings as an alternative, but he refused it. I cannot find that Reddit post, so I can't speak to that, but does she say that he refuses or are you reading into that? (I'm not trying to be snarky at all

Oh, I did read that. Just because she claims she was blindsided, however, doesn't mean that he didn't actually attempt to have this conversation with her.

I agree with most of what you've written. However, we don't really know if she was blindsided. This spreadsheet is a pretty drastic move to make (and a really dickheaded thing to do to someone while they're in no position to rebut), so I have to believe that he has attempted to discuss his frustration with her prior

And actually, I am making an assumption. One, as it turns out, really isn't as relevant as I first thought anyway. There is a breakdown of communications on both sides and while we may easily focus on the physical fulfillment of sex, the very creation of this spreadsheet indicates that the emotional and intimacy

If it is, in fact, "all about HIM and HIS wants / needs" isn't it reasonable to suggest that if she were initiating intimacy and those "wants / needs" (as you state) were being met, he wouldn't be creating this spreadsheet? I'm not condoning all of his behaviour - using her work email, sending it off before a ten-day

Please, share this special insight. Rarely does the fault of a troubled relationship reside with only one person.

Actually, to amend above, we don't know that she hasn't initiated sex, but does anyone here believe that we'd be looking at this spreadsheet if she had?

Yeah... In my head I'm trying to give them both the benefit of the doubt, and really, we're seeing a tiny glimpse of their relationship amplified by the Gawker sounding chamber, but I don't hold out much hope for these two.

We can only get out when we're given something to work with. Do you have any special knowledge about his sexual techniques? If she isn't communicating that she wants a change in the bedroom and instead just lists "tired" or "gross" or "sweaty" as her reasons, why shouldn't we take her reasons at face value?

Yeah, there really isn't a lot of hope for these two, is there? I guess I missed the Reddit line where she suggested mornings. Hmmm... that does add an element to my thinking. Still, if they are having this much trouble now, wait until the kids come!

You have some insight into this that the rest of us don't?

Thank you for the ad hominem attack, this wouldn't have been a Gawker response without it!

Fair enough.

We don't know if he has tried other ways of communications. Further, what we do know, is that she has not effectively communicated with him nor has she once during this time period initiated intimate relations with her husband.

Sex is most definitely NOT a mental disorder.

Do you have a prostate? You WILL believe one day. (And if you don't, well, I don't pretend to have any special understanding of the female plumbing.)

We don't know the underlying issues that caused the constant refusal to be intimate with her husband and subsequent pulling away. We don't know that she "in no way deserved it". As far as dickhead moves goes, creating a spreadsheet that maps out a series of flimsy excuses for refusing to connect with a partner is