Judging by the hate he gets and how often he wins- probably Russell Wilson when/if he gets another one?

Eli will always be underrated.

I just meant “twice as many” made me think maybe all the other 100 game losing QBs had one super bowls with those teams... so, the only other QB on the list to lose that many games for one team happens to be the only guy to play more consecutive games, and have a looooong tenure, yeah I’m right with you on this being…

He didn’t just win two championships, I think beating the undefeated Pats puts him in a kind of historic, iconic game that gets the full blowhard treatment from NFL films for the rest of all time... that’s a biggie.

There’s not a damn “Plumlee” to be seen for miles!

He’ll get in the Hall, but only because he cock-blocked Brady from two more rings. For which I will be eternally grateful.

Half you tools questioning manning would kill to have a QB do half of what he did for the giants.

“Trash” is probably a little harsh for Bradshaw — he may not be as good as “4-time Super Bowl winning QB” implies, but he still QBed a team that won 4 Super Bowls. Trash QBs don’t do that. Namath’s “won the big one once and never really did anything else” sticks out quite a bit farther.

But they need to get Geno some games in so he can be prepared for a 3-13 season next year!

That I agree. In the history of the NFL, has any team done what the Giants are doing now (starting their 2nd or 3rd QBs in meaningless games) and said, “OMG, we’ve been sitting on a franchise QB all this time?” The Giants O-Line is so brutal that anybody back there will be crushed.

Statistically speaking, he doesn’t even sniff Rivers or Roethlisberger (especially with a better understanding of stats today versus 13 years ago) from his own draft class. I think in general he’s an average to above average talent that benefited from a stable organization and extremely good health. He basically has…

Has there ever been a two time Super Bowl winner/MVP that was a “maybe” for the HOF?
I genuinely don’t know.

Lightning struck twice for the Giants which is great for them, but to then treat Manning like he was some wizard of electrostatic discharges was not playing to his strengths. Whatever they may be.

Now they’ve…

You said it yourself: “Manning is a Hall of Famer—I think he shouldn’t be, and I also think he will be—it’ll be because he performed at his best on the biggest stages.”

As a professional Manning hater, nothing brings me more joy.

Ahem to that. I can’t believe, and by now it shouldn’t surprise me, how fucking stupid people are. This guy is an idiot! And he went to college. Kind of, it was Kentucky.

*nods along*

I’m just glad we’re living in a society where standards are changing and that sort of behaviour is no longer acceptable. I suppose I can just hope that current standards hold and my kids grow up in a world where no basketball players spend four years at Kentucky.

“magnificent long overdue season of the douchebag reveal”

I’ll add Tom Hanks, because someone else in another post did, and that’d be crushing.

There is not a chance in hell that Mr. Rogers was a perv, relax! I knew him slightly and he was as lovely in person as you’d imagine him to be. His wife was very nice too, and they were obviously devoted to each other.